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Skin in the Game

Hidden Asymmetries in Daily Life
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Number-one New York Times best seller

A bold work from the author of The Black Swan that challenges many of our long-held beliefs about risk and reward, politics and religion, finance and personal responsibility.

In his most provocative and practical book yet, one of the foremost thinkers of our time redefines what it means to understand the world, succeed in a profession, contribute to a fair and just society, detect nonsense, and influence others. Citing examples ranging from Hammurabi to Seneca, Antaeus the Giant to Donald Trump, Nassim Nicholas Taleb shows how the willingness to accept one's own risks is an essential attribute of heroes, saints, and flourishing people in all walks of life. 

As always both accessible and iconoclastic, Taleb challenges long-held beliefs about the values of those who spearhead military interventions, make financial investments, and propagate religious faiths. Among his insights: 

  • For social justice, focus on symmetry and risk sharing. You cannot make profits and transfer the risks to others, as bankers and large corporations do. You cannot get rich without owning your own risk and paying for your own losses. Forcing skin in the game corrects this asymmetry better than thousands of laws and regulations. 
  • Ethical rules aren't universal. You're part of a group larger than you, but it's still smaller than humanity in general. 
  • Minorities, not majorities, run the world. The world is not run by consensus but by stubborn minorities asymmetrically imposing their tastes and ethics on others. 
  • You can be an intellectual yet still be an idiot. "Educated philistines" have been wrong on everything from Stalinism to Iraq to low carb diets. 
  • Beware of complicated solutions (that someone was paid to find). A simple barbell can build muscle better than expensive new machines. 
  • True religion is commitment, not just faith. How much you believe in something is manifested only by what you’re willing to risk for it.

The phrase "skin in the game" is one we have often heard but have rarely stopped to truly dissect. It is the backbone of risk management, but it's also an astonishingly rich worldview that, as Taleb shows in this book, applies to all aspects of our lives. As Taleb says, "The symmetry of skin in the game is a simple rule that's necessary for fairness and justice and the ultimate BS-buster," and "Never trust anyone who doesn't have skin in the game. Without it, fools and crooks will benefit, and their mistakes will never come back to haunt them." 

©2018 Nassim Nicholas Taleb (P)2018 Random House Audio

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  • Jeremy
  • 11/03/2018

Brilliance smothered by Condescension and Petty Squabbling

I’ve enjoyed and applies Taleb’s insights for years, but this book was so infused with petty arguments and dismissive quips that it was difficult to pull anything useful from it. The author uncharacteristically wandered off topic so often that trying to reconstruct his arguments almost took more effort than the insight seemed worth. I think there were some pretty significant insights (“don’t confuse data for mathematical rigor” for example). But the book as a whole was so condescending and vitriolic to anyone who disagreed with the author about his past ideas, which is strange coming from someone who preaches such a stoic view of things. I think the author had some very important ideas, but it will take serious work to find them if you aren’t interested in taking the author’s side in all the flame wars he’s either started or been dragged into.

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  • Jeremy Teeter
  • 03/03/2018

The expansion pack to Antifragile

If you've never read Taleb before, pass on this book for now and go read Fooled by Randomness or The Black Swan. This book, while fascinating to long time Taleb fans, is more preaching to the choir, and so he skips a lot of he lead up and background discussions that had been part of the backbone of his other books. I valued the discussion of minority rule and the concept of an absorbing barrier applied to financial ruin, and the authors use of unreliable narratives was entertaining as always. That said, the ideas in this book are minor points compared to his other works, and I found myself wishing he had waited another year or two to continue fleshing out the ideas in this book to allow it to be up to the same standards of his other works.

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  • Larry C
  • 14/03/2018

Didn’t care for this one.

I loved the other three books but this one seemed to be mainly an opportunity to vent for the author. Way too much belittling of others and more “I”s than I think I have ever read in a book that was not an autobiography.

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  • Scott H
  • 02/03/2018

Taleb's snobbery and condescension @ all time high

For someone who rails against critics breaking his principle of charity in not using straw man arguments against his main points, he sure does it himself an awful lot. For example, he uses Richard Thaler's self deprecating story about enjoying a tie his wife bought him when he wouldn't have bought it himself as proof of what an idiot Thaler is. Thaler feels this mental accounting is irrational and Taleb does not. I'm inclined to lean toward what I take to be Taleb's argument that the term 'irrational' is overplayed and does not really describe what is happening in a lot of the behavioral economics studies but to just dismiss the whole field as bunk goes much too far. That is where his ideas about heuristics that he uses to criticize Richard Dawkins come from after all. I bet Dawkins would even concede the point that an outfielder is using heuristics rather than subconsciously doing differential equations to anticipate where to go as he originally wrote decades ago.

Taleb makes some good points but he always overplays his hand and portrays himself and a very small handful of his heroes who 'have skin in the game' as the only people in the world who have contributed anything worthwhile.

Some of the things I liked:
-His points about vocal minorites having large impact on public policy or commerce e.g., kosher foods, non-gmo foods, smoking in restaurants.
-Don't tell me what you think, tell me what's in your portfolio. All that really matters is our actions- not our opinions.

I would give this another star but I'm so turned off by his self aggrandizement and unwarranted dismissal of every scientist, school teacher, public servant, and 9-5 employee that I can't do it.

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  • Hessa Al-thani
  • 22/06/2018

Better off read than heard

There's a lot in here that should be read over and mulled over to fully appreciate the author's message. I stopped half way because I'd much rather read it and carefully consider the author's conjectures rather than taking them for granted. I gave the performance a 2 because there were times when the reader added his own tone to the text.

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  • SelfishWizard
  • 18/03/2018

All the Arrogance, Anger and Bile you can Eat!

Taleb interrupts the flow of his work (such as it is) to rant throughout against Michelin starred restaurants, "idiot intellectuals", suit and tie executives, journalists, scientists, academics, genetically modified food (go figure) and in fact pretty much all food other than pizza (made with fresh ingredients) and hamburgers.

He prefers weightlifters to professors and almost anything to Stephen Pinker. He dislikes any and all who aren't what he considers to be traders and risk takers. Gym equipment other than bar bells and sommeliers come in for his especial ire. But he likes brutish looking inarticulate doctors. The non brutish amongst us he considers to be effete and impudent snobs offering comments on matters on which they have no skin in the game. It is hard to see what "skin" Taleb actually has in this irritable list of things he doesn't like.

The book feels like it was dashed off after too many beers on the way to a barroom brawl.
But Taleb obviously delights in his angry skewering of the rest of the world. Somehow he sells this stuff "to the Swiss" (his trading term for the average faceless sucker), so more power to him for developing a business plan and finding a paying audience for his bile.

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  • N.F.
  • 08/03/2018

Parting ways with Taleb

I enjoyed previous works by Taleb like Fooled by Randomness and The Black Swan. However, I couldn't stand this one. It is so full of derision against anyone who is not exactly like him, so full of his many personal vendettas that is incoherent.
He skips from subject to subject with little logic, and covers subject rather superficially. He arrogantly dismisses scientists, doctors, economists and then goes on to peddle what are basically conspiracy theories. Then he goes on to raise on a pedestal "ancient wisdom". I almost had the feeling that he would advocate spitting at black cat like my grandmother because it is wisdom that survived, unlike taking statins which is new science.
In conclusion, if I met Taleb, I would suggest he took a nice long look at the mirror. He might recognise one of his "Intellectual Yet Idiot"s there.

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  • Alex
  • 17/05/2018

some interesting stuff in here

for example, defining rationality in terms of behaviors not beliefs. And businesses that are succesfull are by definition not stupid.

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  • Ramiro Torres
  • 05/05/2018

Great Summation of lost Accountability.

succinct discourse on the hidden art of accountability linking inter-relational action/inaction in our Societal stagnation/progress

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  • Nicholas E. Ertz
  • 21/04/2018

Asymmetries be damned.

Taleb will make you think. He may also make you yell at the window and kick the dog. He brooks no half-hearted response. In this epistle, we hear him remind us to trust no one who gives advice and has no "skin in the game". What is their risk? This is part of the series that includes Black Swan. Read it. (My skin is that you will think me a fool if I'm wrong.)

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  • Frank Fischer
  • Jetzendorf, Deutschland
  • 09/05/2018

I am sorry...

...that I bought this book. While I really enjoyed Taleb books so far, I started to fear while listening to Antifragile that he becomes a ranting old man punching everyone who dares to criticize. With this book, he arrived there. It is a collection of insults and calling names. It is hard to really see the points he wants to make as he constantly has another punch to deliver. I might get his idea that Donald Trump is someone who has "skin in the game" and that he harolds a new future. But Trump is the very wrong example for this, sorry to say.
I stopped the book half way because I am simply bored and enraged the same time having to whitness constant rants. I deleted it and won't come back. Also, my last book from Taleb. It is a pitty.

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  • AlSch.
  • 16/04/2018

Not what you expect from the author

After having read the Black Swan, I expected something similar. This book however is written in a different way. There is too much unrelated storytelling and fancy lists of words which are there just to sound entertaining. I could not finish the book because it became just too uninteresting. If you like lofty stories with the sole purpose of seeming interesting, this still might be for you.

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  • Di Robert Scherling
  • Wien
  • 22/11/2018

A man who thinks

Unbelievable, after nearly 50 attempts it's really the first book I read that has chapter titles. I like people like Mr. Taleb who think to ease up other's life.
In accordance with the content of the book I would say that Audible's bureaucrats are not that far in evolution.

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  • Felix
  • Europe
  • 28/10/2018

Not as good as his previous books

If you like Taleb's previous books, you may want to consider reading this one as well. In comparison to his other books - like Fooled by Randomness, The Black Swan and Antifragile - I recommend this one the least.

It's somewhat entertaining, but less insightful than his previous works. Yet, if the book sensitized me to the concept of "skin in the game", it was was well worth my time and money. Just don't expect too much.

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  • Klaus Thiele
  • 02/09/2018

Skin in the Game

State-Worshipers, banksters, corporations without liabilities and „intellectual“ elitists will hate this message. These people have neither real life reference experience nor do they ever take responsibility for their actions. No skin in the game.

Kommunism and Karl Marx never worked one day in their entire life and had no real life reference experience in regards to human nature. His ideas cost more than 100 million lives alone in the 20th century. Results of no skin in the game. People who can't control themselves, try to control others. Better to set your house in perfect order before you criticize the world.

You don't listen to a virgin trying to give you dating advice. You don't listen to a business professor who never build a successful business. You only listen to competent people high in the competence hierarchy who also have… Skin in the Game.

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  • G. Arndt
  • 24/05/2018

pointless rant of a self-enamored man

if you enjoy generalized rants against academics and if you enjoy listening to people showing off how superior they are to all 'academics', this is your book. content-wise Taleb often contradicts himself, which is easy if you make general statements. The only lesson worth taking from this book is that you have to know what you are talking about, which is not exactly a revelation.

This book has inspired me to buy two Steven Pinker books.

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  • Anonymer Hörer
  • 05/05/2018

Rambling on and on with no substance

Author is rambling on and on how free and independant he is and how all these other scientists have no clue about maths and stuff. Those are interesting claims, but in the part I listened to there was no explanation on why they are wrong, because if he did the book would just be "a boring college lecture". But a well-structured lecture style book is what I hoped for. Disappointed.

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  • Henrik
  • 30/04/2018

Suspicion: An A-hole full of BS

Well I’ve chosen to use two of Taleb’s favorite terms A-hole and BS.
It’s been rather tedious to listen to the end of this audiobook. Taleb seems to be a guy, who knows some about probabilities and about the Ancient Greeks. Almost everyone in his world are idiots, except some who are geniuses, like himself one suspects.
The title of his book is ‘skin in the game’, and his advice is: Never trust someone who hasn’t got skin in the game. Sounds like a good word of caution or advice, if only he would have said ‘be cautious about trusting’ in stead of ‘never’. And this ‘never’ is symptomatic for his line of reasoning, he reasons all the time in absolutes, making sweeping generalizations.
He is angry, self righteous, full of him self. Naturally he is to be trusted, because as a real hero, he has got skin in the game. But my old grandmother - he loves talking about the wisdom of the grandmother, whose wisdom is deeper than stupid pundits - would probably say, that he seems like a narcissistic A-hole, who has been insulted on occasions, while his pompous BS, was called for what it was. He projects his own mediocrity on the world, and points to some of the real mediocrities of the world at the same time, whilst presenting them as deep truths, that he has revealed to the world or that some old Greek already knew.
I don’t think I’ll retain anything from this book, besides that I didn’t like Taleb, and his reasoning was unconvincing. I had hoped to learn some more about probabilities, because I believe we would all do better, if we trained ourselves in it. Having read Taleb has convinced me that knowledge about probabilities does not make you immune from all other kinds of cognitive fallacies and emotionally of the rails. And it certainly doesn’t make you immune from being a true A-hole full of BS (I apologize for the coarse language, but that’s really the way he writes page after page.)

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  • Markus Hartmann
  • Nürnberg
  • 15/04/2018

Ein Meisterwerk A masterpiece

Wie alle Bücher in der Incerto-Reihe ein Meisterwerk. Ich kann es nur jedem empfehlen. Danke Nassim Taleb dafür von ganzem Herzen.

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  • DjM
  • 08/04/2018

Interessante Ansätze

Taleb bringt viele interessante Beispiele für seine Theorie. Den Schreibstil finde ich erfrischend anders; jedoch ist die Struktur für ein Audiobuch (in dem man schlecht vor- und zurückblättern kann) etwas verworren. Trotzdem empfehlenswert!