Zach and Jeff talk about the pitfalls of perfectionism and how the youthful DIY punk spirit can help you overcome it. Then Zach gets curious about Jeff's epic road trip in 2015 after his spiritual awakening. They discuss synchronicity, lucid dreaming and astral projection, relationship dynamics, and the law of attraction and repulsion.

Episode Link: https://we-should-be-working.simplecast.com/episodes/08

• Jeff’s Weekly Newsletter
• Jeff’s blog post about perfectionism
• Ali Abdaal - Perfectionism is Ruining Your Life
• Jeff's BOXOMYLK music on Bandcamp
• The DIY punk video that inspired Jeff to start a band
• Spike Jonze documentary
• Berea Fest 2008 - short DIY documentary
• Paul Baribeau at Berea Fest
• Good Luck performing at Berea Fest
• Woody Guthrie (This Land is Your Land)
• Robert Rodriguez discusses his first film
• Dropkick Murphys
• Garbage
• Jeff’s Experience with Soul Retrieval
• Sean Webb’s book - How Emotions Work in Humans and Computers
• Sean Webb’s personal enlightenment experience
• Richard Rohr - True Self, False Self audiobook
• Maker Mistaker Podcast
• Jeff’s Initial Blog Post announcing his road trip
• Jeff’s road trip update post
• The Monroe Institute
• Robert Monroe’s book “Journeys Out of the Body”
• Lucid Dreaming: Gateway to the Inner Self
• Todd Acamesis - Synchronicity and Living a Magic Life podcast
• Life Path Number (Numerology) calculator
• The Anxious Generation
• On the Anxious Generation (Default Blog)
• The Righteous Mind
• Complex PTSD: From Surviving to Thriving
• We Are Legion (We Are Bob)

00:00 Intro and the Frustrations of Perfectionism
14:30 Embracing the Punk Rock Spirit: Creating Without Perfectionism
40:22 Jeff's Road Trip: Embarking on a Journey of Self-Discovery
57:55 The Dynamics of Seeking Relationships
01:05:51 The Importance of Being Open to Experiences

🎙️ Podcast Website: https://we-should-be-working.simplecast.com
🖥️ Jeff’s website: https://jefffinley.org
📺 Jeff’s YouTube: https://youtube.com/jeff_finley
🐠 Zach’s website: https://fightingfish.studio

Episode 7 of the We Should Be Working Podcast. Zach updates us on his job search and Jeff talks about his awakening experience in 2013 that changed his life. They discuss depression, habit change, morning routines, meditation, and the decision to leave his old life behind.

Episode Summary

Zach and Jeff go over personal work updates including Zach's frustrations with his job search and his unique skill set in marketing and training. Jeff shares his own job search experiences and the difficulties he encounters in finding the right opportunity. They discuss the importance of being persistent and the boundaries of professional communication. The conversation also touches on managing stress and anxiety, as well as the different approaches Zach and Jeff take in dealing with their racing thoughts. Finally, Jeff reflects on his journey and the decision to leave Go Media. Jeff's talks about his experience with feeling overwhelmed and depressed, the impact of work and personal life on his mental health, finding support and coping mechanisms, and the inspiration he has found in books and other content for personal growth. Thrash on!

00:00 Introduction and Discussion of March Madness
10:29 Jeff's Creative Accomplishments and Financial Insecurity
29:41 Living in the Present Moment and Seeking Support
37:18 Overcoming Overwhelm and Apathy
46:16 Biting Off More Than You Can Chew
53:01 The Power of Meditation and Morning Routines
59:48 Inspirations of the Week

• Jeff's BOXOMYLK music on Bandcamp
• Jeff’s Apparel book
• Tim Ferris
• Nathan Berry - Authority and Convert Kit
• Passive Income Podcast
• Sean Webb of I AM Spirituality Podcast (my first intro to Spirituality)
• Sean Webb’s book - How Emotions Work in Humans and Computers
• Jeff’s Book - Wake Up: The Morning Routine That Will Change Your Life
• The Miracle Morning by Hal Elrod
• Zen Habits
• The Power of Habit by Charles Duhigg
• The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle
• Jack Conte (CEO Patreon) - Death of the Follower & the Future of Creativity on the Web
• Oppenheimer
• Shogun
• Project Hail Mary (by Andy Weir)
• The Martian

🎙️ Podcast Website: https://we-should-be-working.simplecast.com
🖥️ Jeff’s website: https://jefffinley.org
📺 Jeff’s YouTube: https://youtube.com/jeff_finley
🐠 Zach’s website: https://fightingfish.studio

Get to know a little bit more about us. We catch up on Zach's work situation and discuss the challenges music artists face with streaming platforms. The conversation then shifts to personal questions, such as their first concerts and what happens when we die. Thrash on!

Links Mentioned in this Episode:

🔗 Jeff's BOXOMYLK music on Bandcamp - https://boxomylk.bandcamp.com/
🔗 Benn Jordan: Spotify's Phony War on Bots - https://youtu.be/kVY7-Ti77UQ
🔗 Starbound Renegade - https://starboundrenegade.bandcamp.com/
🔗 Design By Humans - https://www.designbyhumans.com/
🔗 Jeff's Newsletter: https://jefffinley.ck.page/
🔗 Columbia House CD commercial: https://youtu.be/iIJjeq1gCt4
🔗 American Juggalo documentary - https://vimeo.com/29589320
🔗 Five Iron Frenzy band - https://youtu.be/zeyiBKsYQXQ
🔗 Awana Christian Club 1993 - https://youtu.be/g6VBXw7lHVk
🔗 Jeff's Guide on Astral Projection - https://jefffinley.org/obe
🔗 Near Death Experience Archive - https://www.nderf.org/
🔗 The Monroe Institute - https://youtu.be/ZBbWCUoSPBg
🔗 William Buhlman - Adventures Beyond the Body book - https://amzn.to/3U7AGKG
🔗 William Buhlman - The Secret of the Soul book - https://amzn.to/4d14LDk
🔗 William Buhlman - Adventures in the Afterlife book - https://amzn.to/43T15iL
🔗 Pixar's 'Soul' Movie - https://youtu.be/xOsLIiBStEs
🔗 Wayne Bush analyzes the movie 'Soul' - https://www.trickedbythelight.com/tbtl/Soul.html
🔗 Defending Your Life Movie (1991) - https://youtu.be/oZEbLVD72hY
🔗 Zach's Air Guitar video - https://youtu.be/JVuojra6eaY

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction and Zach's Job Hunt

03:04 Challenges in the Music Industry

07:15 Authenticity and Finding Your Voice

12:28 A Teacher Looking for Students

31:30 First Concert

33:58 Favorite 90s Band

41:34 Did You Grow Up Going to Church?

50:26 What Happens When We Die?

55:33 What Are You Best At?

57:54 Where were Your Childhood Family Trips To?

01:02:29 What is Your Worst Injury?

01:09:29 What is Your Favorite Food?

01:10:52 What is Something You Want to Learn?

01:13:54 What was Your First Car?

01:19:38 What Should You Be Working On?

🎙️ Podcast Website: https://we-should-be-working.simplecast.com
🖥️ Jeff’s website: https://jefffinley.org
📺 Jeff’s YouTube: https://youtube.com/jeff_finley
🐠 Zach’s website: https://fightingfish.studio