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Mentats of Dune

Lu par : Scott Brick
Série : Dune Saga, Volume 5, Schools of Dune, Volume 2
Durée : 22 h et 14 min
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In Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson's Mentats of Dune, the thinking machines have been defeated but the struggle for humanity’s future continues. Gilbertus Albans has founded the Mentat School, a place where humans can learn the efficient techniques of thinking machines. But Gilbertus walks an uneasy line between his own convictions and compromises in order to survive the Butlerian fanatics, led by the madman Manford Torondo and his Swordmaster Anari Idaho.

Mother Superior Raquella attempts to rebuild her Sisterhood School on Wallach IX, with her most talented and ambitious student, Valya Harkonnen, who also has another goal - to exact revenge on Vorian Atreides, the legendary hero of the Jihad, whom she blames for her family’s downfall.

Meanwhile, Josef Venport conducts his own war against the Butlerians. VenHold Spacing Fleet controls nearly all commerce thanks to the superior mutated Navigators that Venport has created, and he places a ruthless embargo on any planet that accepts Manford Torondo’s anti-technology pledge, hoping to starve them into submission. But fanatics rarely surrender easily . . . The Mentats, the Navigators, and the Sisterhood all strive to improve the human race, but each group knows that as Butlerian fanaticism grows stronger, the battle will be to choose the path of humanity’s future - whether to embrace civilization, or to plunge into an endless dark age.

©2014 Herbert Properties, LLC (P)2014 Macmillan Audio

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  • Global
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  • Cliff
  • 16/04/2014

Ok story, but very flawed.

Overall, this is a decent book but is in no way is up to the level of Frank Herbert. The novel is entertaining and it was worth reading to see how the story plays out. Especially since the previous novel was left on a complete cliff hanger and nothing was resolved. It's worth a listen if you are a hardcore dune fan, but be prepared for a long slog (23 hours). If you aren't a major Dune fan or seriously invested after the previous novel pass on this one.

Not to nerd out, but I did have some problems with factual inconsistancies in the story, for example, Dortea finds out information about herself from genetic memory despite the fact that it occurred after a point at which it would have been in her genetic memory from mom or grandma.

Plus, the level of cunning and intelligence just isn't there for the characters. The story is chock full of points where you go , man that is just stupid. I could give quite a few examples but I don't want to spoil anything. Still I am invested enough from the previous book to carry on. This is defintiely a step backward from the quality of books in the machine crusade series.

The pacing is slow.. Glacier slow.. I've had to put this one down and come back several times. The novel is also very repetative, repeating the same facts about the characters over and over again almost like the authors were padding the book to make it longer. It is decently written but I don't know if I will be willing to continue on with the series after this one. Still if you liked the first novel you will get closure on most major issues.

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  • Global
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  • Scraper101
  • 24/03/2014

Too much repeat not enough original meterial

Any additional comments?

I wish the authors of this book would stop repeating the same material over and over again. Every time you read about Vorian Atreides I am tired of hearing about how he regrets the events that caused the downfall of house Harkonnen. I am tired of every time we hear about Valya Harkonnen and how she wants to cause Vorian harm because of things he never did. This go on and on with other charters as well. I just want the story to move along. I don't need you to explore every possibility of every charter in the book every time you bring them up. Cut the book down by a forth to a half and it would be a 5 star book. I love the history in the book but I just half to wade through a lot of unneeded info to get to it. Please in your next book more story and less filler.

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  • Cozy Reader
  • 17/03/2014

Those Humans Never Learn!

I'm a longtime fan of the Dune series and even though I have started with the House trilogy (written by Kevin J Anderson & Brian Herbert) I have read the original Dune books (many, many times) and I continue to read/listen to new books as they come available.

Mentats of Dune follows Sisterhood of Dune, and the mayhem that is flooding the new empire until the rule of Salvatore Corrino. He ordered the Sisterhood to disband and now they are split into two factions, the Harkonnens are still trying to unleash their fury at the Atreides and at the Mentat school, the headmaster is holding onto a very dangerous secret. There is a lot going on and forever Arrakis stays the same as Venport Holdings retrieve the spice and have their expanded fleet travel across the Empire.

This is not the original Dune and I don't know if this is how Frank Herbert would've written it. I feel like even though humans never learn from their mistakes, I wonder if they would've made this many mistakes. It will be interesting to see how all of this unravels in Navigators of Dune.

The original Dune book is an amazing novel of political intrigue and ecological debate. This new series tends to focus more on the houses and the schools and less on Arrakis. They are vastly different, with the same characters. While I like that Kevin J Anderson & Brian Herbert have continued on with the series, I will still love the original books more. Having said that I will continue to read/listen because I'm curious to see how it all plays out.

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  • Global
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  • Stephan Hughes
  • 13/02/2015

well read.

Scott brick does an amazing job reading. He breaths life into the characters. the overall story is good. Nothing fantastic, but an appropriate continuation of the series. once again, the reader brings such a life into the story making the characters tangable. I want more.

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  • Douglas J. Allchin
  • 19/02/2019

Mannered narration destroys involvement.

Sadly, the narration lacked any sense of pace. the voice was liquid, and almost sent me to sleep. it gave no excitement, tension or sense of involvement. there was little to no delineation of character, either.

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  • Tuyuq Gabriel Hightower
  • 31/01/2019

Brian and Kevin should have left it alone

Every time I come back to Brian and Kevin's books, I get more and more fed up with them. their characters are all cliched archetypes brimming with self-righteousness who exist only to advance the plot. Their attitudes and behavior are unnuanced and boorish, when not merely stupid. B and K have no idea how to write an intriguing character arch.

this was the one I couldn't finish.

  • Global
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  • 明日奈勇気
  • 29/11/2018

Too much Ex-Machina

Scott’s performance was grand as always, the universe was great, as presented by Frank and Kevin. What struck me the most was I think they were getting tired with the story, and started trying to tie up loose ends with complete ex-machina, that requires suspension of belief. Characters being confronted by ghosts, dreams... etc. If it was once, I could tolerate it, but this book requires you to swallow it over and over again.

  • Global
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  • Robin Mungo K.
  • 11/09/2018

Another Classic

Couldn't put it down. Perfectly matched the previous works. Looking forward to the next book.

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  • Sean A Jarvis
  • 02/08/2018

meh

the more I reread through the whole series, The More the these go to filler books more than anything else and you can really take it or leave it

  • Global
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  • IZZYB57
  • 08/07/2018

Great book

I think of all the books in the series that I read, this is the best!
Really enjoyed.