I sat down with data scientist and demographer Stephen J Shaw, best know for his work on falling birthrates, to discuss the biggest problem facing humanity. I've been wanting to get Stephen on the show from the very beginning, and he did not disappoint!Find more from Stephen: www.birthgap.orgCHAPTERS00:00 There’s nothing this crisis won’t touch04:23 Gen Z doesn’t realise what’s about to happen05:18 India as an example08:02 Applying the example to the rest of the world10:03 People are shocked by this11:41 We’re in a downward spiral with no known solution13:58 Overpopulation has been debunked but is still being pushed16:38 The difference between birth rate and fertility rate17:35 Birth rates are halving at an alarming rate19:56 Korea could disappear in your lifetime21:56 A dystopian vision of the future26:03 How the crisis will bring economic decline29:40 Elliot paints a picture of the generic Gen Z expectations31:13 The age where you’re 50% likely to not have children33:32 Aging also affects men’s chances of having children35:11 The risks of delaying40:20 Only 10% of childless adults didn’t want children43:21 The grief of male childlessness49:34 Is it misogynistic to campaign for higher birth rates?52:24 People are pushing anti-natalism for political reasons55:42 So many policies have been tried and have failed1:01:03 Hungary’s family-friendly culture1:03:13 Four radical Hungarian policies1:07:29 So many of our societies are not supportive of families1:11:16 We need to reinvent everything1:12:50 Changing the model for education1:17:57 Changing the model for employment1:20:26 Retirement will look different1:21:56 The growing divide between men and women1:25:09 Giving up on sex & relationships1:27:35 The vicious cycle of waiting1:28:41 Elliot uses himself as an example1:30:00 Is this fuelled by the decline of the Christian narrative?1:34:23 How AI will affect fertility1:35:21 Which towns & cities should we save?1:36:55 Aging populations will shift societal power1:39:32 Stephen’s opposition to assisted suicide1:43:59 Stephen’s message to Gen Z1:45:17 Final wordsMy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elliotbewick/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@elliotbewickX: https://x.com/elliotbewickABOUT THE NEXT GENERATION: In a world saturated by social media and marked by skyrocketing rates of anxiety, depression, and ADHD among Gen Z, young people are growing up in a landscape of chaos and contradiction. While protests swell in city streets and activists hurl soup at famous artworks to demand climate action, a quieter crisis unfolds within - the mental and emotional battles faced by a generation trying to make sense of it all.The Next Generation is hosted by 20-year-old Elliot Bewick, offering a raw and honest look at the world through the eyes of those living in it. Bringing together insight from professionals and young people on the ground, this podcast isn’t here to complain or chase clout. It’s here to bend the arc of the modern world towards solutions, truth and a love for the beautiful adventure of life itself.

Loved having the host of one of my favourite YouTube channels back on the pod to go even deeper than last time! We explored the ideas of Pascal, Nietzsche and Descartes and grappled with the dance between faith and doubt. I loved every second and hope you do too!Find Glen at https://www.youtube.com/@SpeakLifeMediaCheck out the free ‘intro to Christianity’ course at 321course.comCHAPTERS00:00 We operate on instinct, not rationality03:04 The difference between the heart, the will and the mind08:20 Can we trust our hearts?11:49 Your actions show what you actually believe14:20 Has technology manipulated us into wanting the wrong things?18:51 Our desires need to be properly ordered23:28 “Love God and do what you want”26:25 Pascal’s Wager is not what most people think31:30 Nietzsche's take: Who are we to disobey nature?35:46 Without God, life is not sacred39:28 Godless universe or human rights - you can’t have both44:42 The ‘image of God’ and the ‘Image of God’48:36 Evolution and Christianity lead in two separate directions52:11 Grappling with faith and doubt via Descartes56:54 The legacy of Descartes in modern thought58:47 Descartes vs Pascal1:00:39 What is faith?1:05:33 The left brain and the right brain1:09:27 What this means for Gen Z1:15:05 Is technology subverting the evolutionary instinct to seek transcendence?1:16:59 Secular people have lost faith in the future1:21:42 Christianity as a bulwark against AI domination1:29:42 How is new media changing the faith discussion?1:33:38 Jordan Peterson on Surrounded1:35:25 Is Jordan Peterson a Christian?1:38:18 Elliot shares an update on his personal faith journey1:41:02 But what if there’s another way to solve all this without God?1:44:39 Doubt more1:45:02 A non-weird worldview is not an option1:47:00 Wisdom from C.S. Lewis1:47:57 Wrapping upMy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elliotbewick/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@elliotbewickX: https://x.com/elliotbewickABOUT THE NEXT GENERATION: In a world saturated by social media and marked by skyrocketing rates of anxiety, depression, and ADHD among Gen Z, young people are growing up in a landscape of chaos and contradiction. While protests swell in city streets and activists hurl soup at famous artworks to demand climate action, a quieter crisis unfolds within - the mental and emotional battles faced by a generation trying to make sense of it all.The Next Generation is hosted by 20-year-old Elliot Bewick, offering a raw and honest look at the world through the eyes of those living in it. Bringing together insight from professionals and young people on the ground, this podcast isn’t here to complain or chase clout. It’s here to bend the arc of the modern world towards solutions, truth and a love for the beautiful adventure of life itself.

I and Glen Scrivener discuss Jordan Peterson's recent Surrounded interview, looking deeper into the Peterson's faith. My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elliotbewick/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@elliotbewickX: https://x.com/elliotbewickABOUT THE NEXT GENERATION: In a world saturated by social media and marked by skyrocketing rates of anxiety, depression, and ADHD among Gen Z, young people are growing up in a landscape of chaos and contradiction. While protests swell in city streets and activists hurl soup at famous artworks to demand climate action, a quieter crisis unfolds within - the mental and emotional battles faced by a generation trying to make sense of it all.The Next Generation is hosted by 20-year-old Elliot Bewick, offering a raw and honest look at the world through the eyes of those living in it. Bringing together insight from professionals and young people on the ground, this podcast isn’t here to complain or chase clout. It’s here to bend the arc of the modern world towards solutions, truth and a love for the beautiful adventure of life itself.