What happens when high performers ignore their body, suppress vulnerability, and power through for too long?

In this episode of The Mark Divine Show, entrepreneur and author Melissa Gonzalez shares the pivotal moment that forced her to rethink leadership, success, and wellbeing. After years on Wall Street and building fast-growing companies, her body finally demanded attention—triggering a profound shift in how she leads, lives, and listens.

This conversation explores:

-Why high achievers ignore early warning signs until crisis hits

-The hidden cost of “powering through” in leadership and life

-How intuition and vulnerability become leadership advantages—not liabilities

-Why slowing down actually increases clarity, impact, and performance

-How purpose isn’t something you do—but something you embody

Melissa breaks down the lessons behind her book The Purpose Pivot, revealing how leaders—especially women—can build sustainable success without sacrificing their health, family, or identity.

If you’re leading at a high level but feeling disconnected, depleted, or stuck in constant output mode, this episode will challenge how you define strength—and show you a better way forward.

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Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction to Leadership and Women in Leadership

01:17 Guest Introduction: Melissa Gonzalez

02:01 Melissa's Career Journey and First Pivot

03:37 Starting the Lions Group and Design Path

04:14 Acquisition by MG2 and Colliers

06:27 Personal Health Crisis and Realizations

11:16 The Importance of Vulnerability

19:33 Sharing Stories and Creating Safe Spaces

22:22 Facing Doubts and Embracing Vulnerability

24:03 Understanding and Teaching Intuition

25:53 The Importance of Presence and Mindfulness

31:36 Balancing Productivity and Well-being

42:27 Discovering and Living Your Purpose

47:01 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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Most people think confidence comes from success.

In reality, confidence comes from self-trust—and most people never learn how to build it.

In this episode of The Mark Divine Show, Mark sits down with Shadé Zahrai, award-winning leadership strategist, Harvard-trained researcher, and author of Big Trust.

Together, they unpack why:

Self-doubt is not the enemy—it’s a signal

- Psychological safety fails when people don’t trust themselves

- Waiting to “feel confident” keeps people stuck

- Inner critics sabotage leadership, performance, and relationships

- True confidence is built through trust, not validation

Shadé introduces her Big Trust framework, breaking down:

- The four core traits that shape self-image

- The internal archetypes that quietly run your behavior

- How to turn doubt into data instead of self-sabotage

- Why self-trust must come before action, not after

- Practical tools to quiet the inner critic and lead with clarity

This conversation bridges neuroscience, leadership psychology, and lived experience to help you stop outsourcing your worth—and start trusting yourself under pressure.

If you’ve ever felt capable but hesitant, accomplished but unsure, or driven but internally conflicted—this episode will give you language, structure, and tools to change that.

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Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction: Journey into Big Trust

00:44 Join The Unbeatable Tribe

02:04 Meet Dr. Sade Rai

03:20 The Path to Leadership and Performance Psychology

07:11 The Role of Self-Doubt and Trust

12:10 Understanding Self-Image and Core Self-Evaluations

20:47 The Four Archetypes of Self-Doubt

31:55 Visualizing and Reclaiming Ownership

32:30 Personal Example of Managing Thoughts

33:24 Understanding the Root Cause

35:15 The WIRM Process

38:29 The Story of the Golden Buddha

42:04 Building Self-Esteem and Agency

46:21 The Power of Hope and Emotional Adaptability

52:19 Addressing the Victimizer Archetype

56:49 Practical Steps to Develop Trust

01:01:15 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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Most people believe insight alone creates transformation.

But insight without daily practice fades—and self-sabotage takes over.

In this episode of The Mark Divine Show, Mark sits down with Shirzad Chamine, New York Times bestselling author of Positive Intelligence and one of the world’s leading experts on mental fitness, leadership performance, and mindset mastery.

Shirzad shares his journey from a traumatic childhood marked by generational rage and depression to building a globally recognized framework used by Fortune 100 companies, Stanford faculty, and over two million leaders worldwide.

Together, they unpack:

- Why high performers sabotage themselves under pressure

-The 10 mental “Saboteurs” that destroy wellbeing, performance, and relationships

- Why workshops and motivation don’t create lasting change

- How to rewire the brain through short, daily mental fitness practices

- The difference between insight and transformation

- How to shift from fear-based reactions to calm, focused, purposeful action

This conversation bridges neuroscience, leadership, spirituality, and practical tools you can use in the middle of real life, not just in meditation or reflection.

If you want more clarity, resilience, and control over how you show up under stress—this episode gives you a repeatable system to build it.

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Timestamps:

00:00 Growing Up in Tehran: A Story of Poverty and Fear

00:56 The Unbeatable Leader Challenge: Transform Your Mind

01:22 Welcome to the Mark Divine Show

01:44 Introducing Shazad Shain: A Journey of Positive Intelligence

02:29 Shazad's Early Life: Overcoming Fear and Depression

06:03 The Whisper That Guided Shazad's Life

08:03 The Importance of Daily Practices for Transformation

09:25 The Unbeatable Tribe: Whole Person Integration

13:08 Understanding Mental Fitness and Emotional Resiliency

14:55 Shazad's Pivotal Moment: From Visionary Leader to Humiliation

18:12 Discovering the Saboteurs: Fear-Based Voices

27:16 The Universality of Saboteurs Across Cultures

29:08 Identifying and Managing Your Saboteurs

32:47 Identifying and Understanding Saboteurs

33:14 Introducing the Sage and Its Superpowers

35:15 Three-Step Process to Combat Saboteurs

38:13 The WIRM Process and Rewiring the Brain

41:18 Practical Techniques for Mindfulness and Self-Command

46:20 Visualization Techniques for Compassion and Healing

50:50 Sage Perspective and the Power of Positive Intelligence

56:47 Scaling Positive Intelligence Through Technology

01:02:31 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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Mark Divine and Bill Murphy share insights on cultivating a warrior mindset and building mental toughness, essential for effective leadership strategies. This episode explores the principles of navy seal leadership and how to embrace resilience training. Discover how to integrate high performance habits into your daily routine for personal and professional growth, aligning with the unbeatable mind philosophy.

Bill shares how his worst business year in nearly three decades forced a deeper internal reckoning—and why pursuing extreme physical challenges, including seven marathons on seven continents in seven days, became a catalyst for inner transformation rather than ego-driven achievement.

This conversation goes far beyond endurance sports.

Together, they explore:

-Why most goals fail without a strong emotional “why”

-How to build a bag of whys that sustains commitment under pressure

-The mental frameworks that eliminate quitting without suppressing emotion

-How breath control, mindset, micro-goals, and service to others work together

-Why growth requires both individual strength and team connection

-The difference between suffering that builds you and suffering that breaks you

If you’re a leader, entrepreneur, or high performer navigating uncertainty—and you’re looking for a grounded way to stay disciplined, purposeful, and resilient—this episode provides a clear, actionable path forward.

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Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction: bubsnaturals.com Code: Unbeatable

01:13 Guest Introduction: Bill Murphy

01:38 Bill's Athletic Achievements

01:50 The Great World Race: 7 Marathons on 7 Continents

03:09 Mental and Physical Challenges of the Race

08:03 Training and Preparation Insights

12:04 Reflections on the Experience

18:46 Leadership and Mental Toughness

23:37 Understanding the 'Big I' and 'Little i'

24:19 The Importance of Knowing Your 'Why'

25:57 Heart vs. Ego in Overcoming Challenges

27:05 The Power of Teamwork and Character in SEAL Training

28:43 Balancing Individualism and Teamwork

31:17 Transforming Through Training and Resilience

37:40 Setting Goals and the FITS Model

46:09 The Importance of Continuous Challenges

48:58 Concluding Thoughts on Growth and Discipline

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What happens when life takes everything from you—and you’re forced to decide who you become next?

In this deeply moving conversation, Mark Divine sits down with Cody Lakefield, co-founder of Long Ship Men and Look Health, to explore the intersection of trauma, healing, proactive health, brotherhood, and purpose.

Cody shares his journey through profound personal loss, responsibility, and suffering—and how those experiences led him to build systems that help men reclaim ownership of their health, their inner lives, and their relationships with other men.

From personalized biomarker testing and preventative health… to grief, PTSD, faith, and the power of men rowing together… this episode is about moving from survival to meaning.

If you’re a leader, father, entrepreneur, or man navigating pressure in silence, this conversation offers a different path forward—one rooted in awareness, courage, and community.

In this episode, you’ll discover:

Why proactive health matters more than “sick care”

How understanding biomarkers gives you agency over your body

Why trauma doesn’t resolve itself through willpower alone

The danger of carrying everything in isolation

How brotherhood accelerates healing and resilience

Why purpose is often forged through suffering, not comfort

How to move from surviving life to living it intentionally

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Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction to the Biomarkers, LookHealth, Longship Men

00:38 Mark Divine's Leadership Challenge

01:28 Welcome to the Mark Divine Show

01:54 Introducing Cody Lakevold

02:52 Cody's Health Ventures

04:30 Challenges in Healthcare Access

06:39 Cody's Personal Journey Begins

12:38 Family Struggles and Personal Loss

20:32 Coping with Family Tragedies

40:31 Struggling with Nightmares and Suicidal Thoughts

42:16 Turning to Alcohol for Relief

43:41 Seeking Therapy and Finding Hope

45:35 Discovering MDMA Therapy

46:16 A Life-Changing MDMA Session

53:04 Rebuilding Life and Relationships

54:12 Creating Raven Lake Investments

01:00:05 The Birth of Long Ship

01:11:24 The Vision for Long Ship

01:21:03 Conclusion and Future Plans

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In this deeply honest conversation, Mark Divine sits down with entrepreneur, consciousness leader, and author Scott Britton to explore the missing link between success, fulfillment, and awakening.

Scott shares his journey from building and selling a venture-backed tech company to Salesforce to confronting the inner emptiness that achievement alone could not solve. Together, they unpack the intersection of spiritual practice, discipline, identity, leadership, and purpose—and why true growth requires integration, not escape.

This episode challenges the belief that spirituality means retreating from life, ambition, or responsibility. Instead, it reveals why awakening is meant to deepen your engagement with the world, sharpen your leadership, and align you with your true dharma.

If you’re a founder, leader, high performer, or seeker who feels called to more—but doesn’t want to abandon excellence, discipline, or impact—this conversation will meet you exactly where you are.

In this episode, you’ll discover:

Why success without awareness leads to burnout and emptiness

The danger of using spirituality as an escape instead of an integration

How achievement can become a path to awakening—not a distraction from it

The difference between ego-driven ambition and aligned purpose

Why warriors, leaders, and builders are needed more than ever

How meditation, discipline, and embodiment support real spiritual growth

Why life itself is the practice—not retreats, substances, or titles

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Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction to Spiritual Practice

00:53 Sponsor Message: Indeed

02:15 Welcome to the Mark Divine Show

02:53 Guest Introduction: Scott Britton

04:29 Scott Britton's Entrepreneurial Journey

09:49 Unbeatable Leader Challenge Announcement

10:46 Scott's Spiritual Awakening

14:19 Mark Divine's Psychedelic Experience

17:43 Unbeatable Leader Challenge - Join Now

23:44 The Power and Risks of Psychedelics

34:51 Join The Unbeatable Tribe

43:11 Exploring the Purpose of the Soul

43:53 The Teacher Archetype and Personal Journey

44:17 The Realization of Worthlessness and Awakening

46:08 The Importance of Dharma and Karmic Duty

48:06 The Warrior's Path and Spiritual Practice

52:41 The Integration of Body, Mind, and Spirit

01:05:52 The Role of Conscious Accomplishment

01:16:45 The Future of Consciousness and Leadership

01:20:27 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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Most people think performance is about more reps, more data, more tech, or more intensity. But according to human performance educator Rob Wilson, the truth is far more uncomfortable: most elite performers don’t actually understand their own bodies, identities, or inner signals—and it’s costing them years of longevity, clarity, and resilience.

In this powerful conversation, Mark Divine and Rob Wilson break down the real keys to performance longevity, emotional resilience, identity beyond your job title, and why self-awareness is the most underrated skill in elite sport, tactical teams, and everyday life.

From breathwork, interoception, and spinal health… to transitions out of high-status careers… to the hidden dangers of burnout and tech dependency… this episode explores the deep work behind staying healthy, powerful, and fully human in a high-performance world.

If you’re an athlete, coach, operator, or leader who wants to sustain excellence without breaking your body, mind, or identity—this conversation will shift how you train, lead, and live.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

1. Why high performers must become “problem seekers,” not just problem solvers

2. How to become the observer of your own training instead of a consumer of metrics

3. Why tech overload is weakening self-awareness and decision-making

4. How breathwork and spinal health unlock long-term resilience

5. Why identity collapse affects elite operators and athletes after transition

6. How emotional intelligence amplifies performance and protects mental health

7. What it really takes to prevent burnout and injury in high-stress environments

8. Why ancient mind-body practices still outperform the newest fitness tech

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Timestamps

00:00 Introduction and Current Focus

00:26 Health Monitoring Technology Debate

01:02 Welcome to the Mark Divine Show

01:31 Rob Wilson's Background and Achievements

02:52 Challenges of Transitioning from Military Life

07:21 The Importance of Pre-Resilience Training

13:04 The Role of Education in Strength and Conditioning

21:48 Breath Control and Interoception

34:02 Understanding Contextual Shifts in Health and Longevity

34:39 Injury and Burnout in High-Performance Environments

35:27 The Complex System of Human Stress Load

36:48 Emotional and Mental Health in Elite Performers

44:20 The Importance of Empathy and Emotional Regulation

48:34 Meditation and Breath Work for Integrated Health

55:18 Writing and Publishing Insights

01:04:21 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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Most people think they communicate well. Most people think they’re emotionally intelligent. But according to SEL expert Lori Woodley, mother of Shailene Woodley, we’re getting the most important human skill completely wrong.

In this powerful conversation, Mark Divine sits with nationally recognized SEL leader and author Lori Woodley Langendorff to explore why emotional literacy is collapsing inside homes, schools, and workplaces—and how we can rebuild the skills that actually create resilient kids, stronger families, and healthier communities.

From redefining accountability, to breaking the habit of taking everything personally, to shifting from blame to responsibility, Lori reveals the six SEL muscles that determine how we relate, communicate, and lead.

This episode unpacks the real emotional crisis behind student behavior, teacher burnout, parental overwhelm, and the widening disconnect between generations.

If you’re a parent, educator, leader, or someone who wants to build deeper connection and stronger relationships, this conversation will change the way you listen, respond, and lead.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

-Why emotional literacy is declining and how to rebuild it

-Why “quit taking it personal” is the foundational SEL muscle

-How reframing with “I statements” shifts you from victimhood to accountability

-Why storytelling and vulnerability improve connection

-How to model emotional intelligence at home and at work

-How schools, parents, and leaders can restore resilience in the next generation

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