This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re continuing our Retired CAE Summer Series with Kevin Ryan, former Chief Risk Review Officer and General Auditor at KeyBank, where he spent 38 years—15 of those in audit leadership.

In this episode, Kevin reflects on the importance of relationships and shares how he was able to gain the ear of the CEO, something many auditors strive for.

He also offers a personal story that would serve as a lesson in office politics, and answers the question: if his audit career were a book, what would the first and last chapters be about?

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1:52 – How a Retired CAE Uses ChatGPT

5:33 – What You Can Learn From Relationships

10:40 – How to Gain the Year of the CEO

13:36 – What to Do if You Only Get 15 Minutes With the CEO

16:57 – Why Working With Other CAEs Matters

19:22 – A Lesson About Office Politics

21:28 – Opening Chapter of Your Career

24:22 – Final Chapter of Your Career

25:42 – Building your Self Awareness

27:55 – Final Thoughts

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This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re continuing our Retired CAE Summer Series with Mike Jenkins, former VP of Internal Audit at Facebook, Gap, and Included Health, and former Director of Financial Audit at Google.

Since retiring, Mike has embraced a new chapter—as an artist. In this episode, he shares how creativity has always been a superpower for him, both in his art and throughout his audit career.

Mike reflects on what he's learned over the years, offers advice for today’s audit professionals, and discusses what it really means to interact with the board and audit committee—sharing what those moments looked like in his own experience.

Be sure to connect with Mike on LinkedIn.

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1:36 – How a retired CAE is using ChatGPT

6:08 – Mike’s secret weapon as a CAE

15:55 – Mike’s three key lessons: Learn much more

21:04 - Learn to talk

25:56 - Learn to Date

31:25 – Building relationships with the audit committee

34:52 – Final thoughts

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This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype.

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This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re continuing our Retired CAE Summer Series with Dale Jeanes, former General Auditor (CAE) at Truist, where he spent an impressive 34 years. Dale now leads Jeanes Professional Development, where he coaches internal audit, risk management, and finance professionals.

In this episode, Dale joins the show to reflect on his career and his current work as a coach. He shares practical advice for professionals in the field, how to maintain integrity as auditors, and his take on what people often misunderstand about being a CAE.

We also explore a fun thought experiment: If Dale wrote a book about his career, what would the first and last chapters be about?

This series is all about gaining insights from those who have stepped back from the profession—and seeing things with a little more clarity.

Be sure to connect with Dale on LinkedIn.

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3:47 – Using ChatGPT for Idea Development

8:23 – Dale’s Most Coachable Moment

12:40 – Techniques to Elicit Eeflection

17:37 – Dale’s Politics Lesson for Auditors

21:24 – CAE as Chief Audit Innovation Officer

29:26 – Building Leadership from the Start

31:27 – Thoughts on Leadership Training

35:02 – Maintaining Integrity as an Auditor

36:36 – Final Thoughts

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This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype.

Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.