For the final episode of Season 1 we have our first French leader: Thibault Laumonier.

Thibault manages the French division of cardboard packaging group DS Smith, a major actor in Europe’s circular economy. A former Paratrooper who studied finance in Paris, he worked his way up in industrial sales before taking up increasingly complex managing director roles for American, Australian and British businesses.

His leadership style can be summarised by his moto: a healthy mind in a healthy body. He shares with us what it means and how to get the best out of a diverse team.

Thibault loves food: both for itself and for its ability to build connections. This is why he chose a very convivial cooking instrument for today’s recipe: the plancha. He shares his recipe of portuguese clams, along with three tapas to cook while socialising.

In part 2 Valentine and I explore the origins of the plancha cooking style, the main and bonus recipes – with a little twist due to the availability of the ingredients.

Bon Appétit!

“It’s a time and moment when you bring people together” – Thibault Laumonier

You’ll hear about:

02:12 - From jumping out of aeroplanes to the circular economy

05:50 - What makes a good leader?

10:00 - How to deal with being the ‘jam in the sandwich’

12:00 - The role of food in Thibault's life

15:10 - Thibault's favourite recipe

23:52 - Quickfire questions

31:54 - Part 2 - Portuguese clams a la plancha: etymology, tips and banter

Episode resources:

Download Thibault’s recipe here

Find out more about Thibault:

LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/thibault-laumonier-4464806/

DS Smith - https://www.dssmith.com/company

Contact François:

LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/francoismoscovici/

Valentine’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/valentine-moscovici/

François’ Instagram food feed:

@moscoffier

Today’s guest is not just a social business leader, he is also a policy wonk, a tech entrepreneur, and a crossbench (non political) Peer.

Born and bred in Wakefield, Victor dropped out of school and worked as a road sweeper before branching into council housing management and getting his first CEO role aged 24. He ran increasingly complex social enterprises and joined the House of Lords where he advocates important neglected issues. He currently sits on the board of the Co-op Group and chairs the NHS Confederation. He also chairs Visionable, a video and data tech platform designed to bring healthcare to everyone, everywhere.

Victor’s chosen dish is one of comfort: Nigerian chicken stew. Growing up this was his Sunday lunch, and an opportunity for his parent’s Yoruban roots to shine through in food.

It’s a dish with many variations, and we explore the impatient cook’s version along with the slower, more detailed way to cook it in part 2 of the episode.

Bon Appétit!

“Enjoy leadership and food because they don’t last forever” – Victor Adebowale

You’ll hear about:

02:06 – An introduction to Victor

12:26 – The inverse care law

15:26 – Why 9/11 was so important for Victor

18:30 – Politicians are in the wrong job

19:20 – Victor’s desert island dish

24:33 – You can’t cut your way to growth

29:49 – Why Empathy is a fundamental quality

40:31 – Part 2 – Nigerian Chicken Stew recipes

44:40 – The bish bash bosh version

48:21 – The advanced recipe

Episode resources:

Polpo: A Venetian Cookbook - https://rb.gy/wsd8py

Find out more about Victor:

LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/loadebowale/

Visionable - https://visionable.com/

Contact François:

LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/francoismoscovici/

Valentine’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/valentine-moscovici/

François’ Instagram food feed:

@moscoffier

Today’s guest has spent her entire career dealing with leaders before becoming one herself. She joined Europe’s largest Executive Search firm straight from university, fell in love with the industry and never left. After 20 years at Egon Zehnder, where she ran the Research teams in London and India, she founded her own firm and now focuses on identifying diverse international talent. Shilpi shares her experiences living across the globe as well as her thoughts on leadership and recruiting leaders for sectors as diverse as financial services and health sciences.

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Every country has its version of comfort food. In India it’s khichri. Its basic form is used to wean children as their first solid food and it is part of the narrative of every family. As they grow up it turns into comfort food which can form part of any meal, from breakfast to late night snack.

Shilpi gives us a detailed version of her recipe, before Valentine and I debate and argue in Part 2 not just about khichri but also various comfort foods in different cultures.

Bon Appétit!

“In Indian culture all the critical family decisions are taken around food” – Shilpi Bordoloi

You’ll hear about:

03:00 - How Shilpi moved her interest from maths to the Maffia

04:13 - The unusual path of starting a career in Executive Search straight awayWhat took Shilpi down the path she followed?

05:25 - What makes a good leader according to Shilpi?

10:00 - The differences between life sciences and finance

15:00 - The role food plays in Shilpi's life

18:38 - Shilpi's favourite recipe: khichri

27:50 - The Proust questionnaire

39:10 - Part 2 - The recipe and comfort foods in other countries

Episode resources:

- Madhur Jaffrey’s Indian Cookery: https://amzn.eu/d/6hFkjoo

Find out more about Shilpi:

- Shilpi’s new firm: https://www.springboardtalent.co.uk/

Contact François:

LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/francoismoscovici/

Valentine’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/valentine-moscovici/

François’ Instagram food feed:

@moscoffier