Host Becky Dawson is joined by Charlotte Rowley, a primary school principal, and Tracey Lees, an assistant head, to discuss their book, Wellbeing Wins for Teachers. The episode explores the urgent need to centre staff wellbeing as a prerequisite for student success, particularly in deprived areas where schools act as a vital haven. They share insights on moving beyond tokenistic gestures toward a culture of authentic support, professional boundaries, and retention-focused leadership.
Teaching has evolved into a role that often overlaps with social services and mental health expertise, creating a high-pressure environment that contributes to significant early-career attrition. This conversation highlights the importance of "wellbeing wins"—small, actionable changes that empower practitioners and protect their mental health. By role-modelling boundaries and advocating for flexible working, especially for women in leadership, schools can create a sustainable and joyful professional climate.
Takeaways- Centring staff wellbeing to support students: You cannot "pour from an empty cup," and maintaining a well, invigorated staff is essential for delivering high-quality education and pastoral care.
- The power of professional boundaries: Using "wellbeing wins" to set limits, such as out-of-office replies and clear communication about capacity, is a professional responsibility, not a sign of weakness.
- Authentic support vs. tokenism: Moving beyond "cake and yoga" to systemic changes like providing time, realistic deadlines, and a culture that allows for honest mistakes without fear.
- Empowerment over micromanagement: Staff wellbeing flourishes when educators feel valued and are given the agency to grow professionally rather than being "caught out" by monitoring processes.
- Retention through flexible working: Addressing the "leaky pipeline" of women aged 30–39 by implementing practical solutions for working parents, such as flexible start times for the school run.
Chapters00:00 - Introduction - Becky Dawson introduces guests Charlotte Rowley and Tracey Lees.
01:38 - Drivers for Entering Education - Personal inspirations and the desire to impact young minds.
02:55 - The Crisis in Teacher Retention - Discussing workload, mental health, and current profession statistics.
06:22 - The Changing Face of Teaching - How the role now extends into social work and healthcare.
07:41 - Wellbeing Wins for Teachers - The concept behind the book and using "icons" to structure support.
12:14 - Establishing Healthy Boundaries - Advice on saying "no" and role-modelling balance for colleagues.
18:37 - Moving Beyond Tokenistic Wellbeing - Why time and trust are more valuable than staff room treats.
24:40 - Reframing "Support Plans" - The need for genuine collaboration rather than punitive monitoring.
27:03 - Women in Leadership - Challenges regarding motherhood, flexible working, and the glass ceiling.
35:57 - Closing Thoughts - Final reflections on the importance of empathy in the profession.
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Find out more about Charlotte's work here:
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlotte-rowley-8461271bb/
Find out more about Tracey's work here:
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tracey-leese-813209151/
Their book is Wellbeing Wins for Teachers https://www.routledge.com/Well-being-Wins-for-Teachers-What-We-Can-Learn-from-Iconic-Individuals/Leese-Rowley/p/book/9781032529110