Max and Liz finally return for their first full episode recording in over a year. they catch up about Pitchfork layoffs, dead music websites of old, the sorry state of culture criticism in general... and the recent death of a very important musical figure.

they then turn to talk about one of 2000's indie's great "What If's", Minneapolis-based Andrew Broder aka Fog, a hip-hop DJ turned multi genre wonder ahead of his time who never really hit the zeitgeist but nonetheless did score a Pitchfork Best New Music with his melancholy 2003 experimental ambient folk album "Ether Teeth". Max and Liz speculate on why he never really seemed to hit as an artist, and why "Ether Teeth" holds up in unexpected and surprising ways.

Andrew Broder/Yoni Wolf podcast interview from 2013 mentioned in the episode: https://soundcloud.com/thewanderingwolf/episode-3-andrew-broder

Fog/Andrew Broder performance and interview clips from 2003: https://www.youtube.com/@work-kh2bo

Andrew Broder's solo bandcamp:

https://andrewbroder.bandcamp.com/

song list:

Cockeyed Cookie Pusher Pneumonia Check Fraud A Word of Advice "Fuel" - Idaho Plumb Dumb What a Day Day See It? See It? The Girl from the Gum Commercial CheerUpCheerily Under a Anvil Tree No Boys Allowed Apologizing to Mystery I Call This Song Old Tyme Dudes Wall Paper Sink or Swim Just a Kid Growing Up