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The True Flag

Theodore Roosevelt, Mark Twain, and the Birth of American Empire
Lu par : Robert Petkoff
Durée : 10 h et 55 min
Catégories : Anglais - History, American

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The best-selling author of Overthrow and The Brothers brings to life the forgotten political debate that set America's interventionist course in the world for the 20th century and beyond.

How should the United States act in the world? Americans cannot decide. Sometimes we burn with righteous anger, launching foreign wars and deposing governments. Then we retreat - until the cycle begins again.

No matter how often we debate this question, none of what we say is original. Every argument is a pale shadow of the first and greatest debate, which erupted more than a century ago. Its themes resurface every time Americans argue whether to intervene in a foreign country.

Revealing a piece of forgotten history in The True Flag, Stephen Kinzer transports us to the dawn of the 20th century, when the United States first found itself with the chance to dominate faraway lands. That prospect thrilled some Americans. It horrified others. Their debate gripped the nation.

The country's best-known political and intellectual leaders took sides. Theodore Roosevelt, Henry Cabot Lodge, and William Randolph Hearst pushed for imperial expansion; Mark Twain, Booker T. Washington, and Andrew Carnegie preached restraint. Only once before - in the period when the United States was founded - have so many brilliant Americans so eloquently debated a question so fraught with meaning for all humanity.

All Americans, regardless of political perspective, can take inspiration from the titans who faced off in this epic confrontation. Their words are amazingly current. Every argument over America's role in the world grows from this one. It all starts here. This program includes an introduction read by the author.

©2017 Stephen Kinzer (P)2017 Macmillan Audio

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  • Joshua C. Packard
  • 20/02/2017

Timely and important

I'm currently active duty Army with 17 years in service. In my opinion, this book should be read by every soldier and, most importantly, by our politicians who decide whether to send us into harms way. As the author demonstrates so eloquently in this book, intervention abroad (whether by democrats or republicans) rarely leads to the intended goals due to ignorance, hubris, and unintended consequences. The Spanish-American War is a little understood and rarely discussed period of American military history. But that really should change given that the vigorous debate surrounding it are just as relevant today as they were over 100 years ago.

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  • 29/01/2017

Highly Relevant History Lesson Well Told.

This well told history of the Spanish American War serves up many insights into the roots, motivations, and perils of American intervetion abroad right up to our present quagmires in Iraq and Afganistan. The heated political debates among giant personalities are as relevant today as they were in the 1890s. These are lessons we have not yet learned as a nation. Our failure heed them will create an increasingly unstable and dangerous world. Excellent and important book. Highly recommended.

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  • Justice Campbell
  • 02/02/2018

Amazingly one sided - horrible

The publisher’s description is blatantly misleading. The author clearly wrote the book with the intent to degrade and defame Theodore Roosevelt. The venom is evident in every quote chosen and facts pointed out. If you are interested in the subject matter of the historical origin of imperialism in America or Roosevelt’s role, as promised by the publisher’s description of this book, you will be bitterly disappointed.
The press is yellow, money is behind all of America’s worldly interest, Roosevelt was a brutish thug who would never have amounted to anything without Henry Cabot Lodge, and Mark Twain is a liberal Moses.
No one reading the publisher’s notes, if the had been true as to the bent of this book, would buy it.
Mark Twain said, “Get your facts straight first, then you can bend them any way you want.”
The author wrote the book bent the facts as he wished pursuant the dictates of “the iconoclastic Mark Twain” (authors words) - as is his right.
Just wish the publisher’s notes properly characterized the book - this was a wasted credit.
One would expect historical books to portray the facts, as least somewhat, neutrally. This was horribly disappointing.

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  • Jon
  • 10/04/2018

Opinion in place of just fact

Starts off as a enjoyable history of America’s journey towards imperialism, but the last half becomes an opinion piece. Created and written to sway instead of inform. I wish it had stayed neutral throughout its entirety.

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  • Barrett
  • 24/12/2017

A fascinating window into USA history

I thought I was familiar with American history. But the great debate between imperialists and anti-imperialists at the end of the 19th century and beginning of the 20th century, was largely unknown to me. The author provides a detailed and fascinating exploration of that debate. Narrowly lost by the anti-imperialists, the outcome of that debate has shaped our 20th century American experience and is important to understand. I commend the book without reservation.

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  • Jack O
  • 29/04/2017

Today's political atmosphere explained through History

When one takes a look at the beginnings of the policies that formed today's political climate, a greater understanding of our times can be achieved. Expansionism, Imperialism, or conquest beyond our current borders didn't just start with the latest Presidency. Looking at Teddy Roosevelt , the Spanish American War, the Philippine Insurrection, McKinley's assassination and other events of the period will help us see how America got where we are today.

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  • 30/12/2017

Please read.

Every American needs to read this book. I implore you to do so. As a bonus, it's also a very engaging story.

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  • 13/08/2018

Pedantic

This is a pedantic string of quotes masquerading as a book. I disliked it immensely.

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  • J. Burnley
  • 18/04/2018

History in the style of a comic book

What could have made this a 4 or 5-star listening experience for you?

Kinzer is a talented writer and researcher. But his simplistic, wildly distorted view of American history fatally taints the narrative. No U.S. military action in the last 125 years left things for the better, per his last chapter. He even implies that the Japanese attack on the U.S. in 1941 was provoked by our military actions in the preceding decades! So the "listening experience" could only be improved were the book written by an historian who doesn't see the world as either black or white.

Has The True Flag turned you off from other books in this genre?

No, because it's an outlier in its distortions and naivete.

Have you listened to any of Robert Petkoff’s other performances before? How does this one compare?

Yes. This performance is quite good, as have been the others I have heard.

You didn’t love this book... but did it have any redeeming qualities?

None.

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  • Dr. JSH
  • 26/01/2018

I made it to chapter 6 ... .

I really wanted to like this book because the lives of President T. Roosevelt and Mark Twain fascinate me.
But -- I had to give up.
Kinzer, the author, seemed to create this book (well, the first six chapters anyway) in a copy-and-paste manner. It's just quotation after quotation. Between quotes, Kinzer added what could be considered transitions, if they worked well, which they didn't.
As a professor, I get annoyed when students use this writing style: a three-sentence quote from this article, a four-sentence quote from that article. They're not plagiarizing; everything is properly cited. But it shows little original thought.
I find reading -- and listening -- to long-quote/transition/long-quote/transition/ad-nauseam very frustrating.
The narrator was great, but, for me, he couldn't save this audio book.

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