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The Art of the Argument

Western Civilization's Last Stand
Lu par : Stefan Molyneux
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The Art of the Argument shocks the dying art of rational debate back to life, giving you the essential tools you need to fight the escalating sophistry, falsehoods, and vicious personal attacks that have displaced intelligent conversations throughout the world. At a time when we need reasonable and empirical discussions more desperately than ever, The Art of the Argument smashes through the brain-eating fogs of sophistry and mental manipulation, illuminating a path to benevolent power for all who wish to take it.

Civilization is defined by our willingness and ability to use words instead of fists - in the absence of reason, violence rules. The Art of the Argument gives you the intellectual ammunition - in one concentrated, entertaining and powerful package - to engage in truly productive, civilization-saving debates. Armed with this book, you will be empowered to speak truth to power, illuminate ignorance, shatter delusions, and expose the dangerous sophists within your own life, and around the world.

©2017 Stefan Molyneux (P)2017 Stefan Molyneux

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  • Bryan Schneiders
  • 21/12/2017

Verbose

Redundant explanations made the book twice as long as necessary. Otherwise good content and performance.

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  • RyanJ
  • 20/01/2018

Annoying

I thought this would be a book about the principles of argument. It was actually more a philosophical discussion of the concept of argument. I couldn’t finish because the book was unnecessarily wordy to the point where it was annoying. After 3 hours of what I can best describe as rambling (though the rambling may have some great philosophical perspectives), it is really somewhat pointless. The writing style paints the author as overwhelmingly arrogant as well.

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  • Tyrone N. Turner
  • 28/11/2017

Biased

By its title, this book presents itself as a guide to argue effectively. It doesn’t take long however, to discover the true intent of the author, which is to—by no means of persuasion—tell you of the many flaws of liberalism.

I waited patiently for the author to use an example where conservatism has gone astray but there was no such instance. I’m no expert in debate, but aren’t you supposed to be able to argue your opponent’s position?

This is an opinion piece. Many times throughout this book, I felt as though someone were ranting at me, sprinkling in the word “argument” as a means to defend the title. I finished the book, mostly because I was amused at how far the author would take his rant. He did not relent and instead of learning how to argue, I learned how much this man despises liberal principles.

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  • Robin Almquist
  • 08/02/2018

Not at all what was promised.

This book is not about arguments at all, and does not give you any tools for winning arguments like promised. Instead it is a cheap rant about the authors current political opponents. The book feels like an unedited transcript of an episode of Free Domain Radio, with all the logical falacies still left in.

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  • Eric A. Williams
  • 18/12/2017

Arrogance abounds as arguments are almost absent

The writer uses strong auditory delivery to mask poorly developed content. About 15 percent of the book is consistent with the title. The rest is a dramatic presentation of self aggrandizement. The author is clearly intelligent (because he tells us repeatedly). It was like listening to a mock version of The Dating Game comprised of three bloviating members of Mensa (sorry/not sorry to let the secret out). Save your money or buy Bo Bennett’s Logically Fallacious.

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  • Justin
  • 24/09/2018

Important message, awkward reading

Stefan Molyneux has an evocative and florid style in his writing. Unfortunately, the audiobook’s effect is lessened by his own reading of it. In short, he reads the entire book like it’s a Captain Kirk monologue. Filled with mid-phrase pauses, sudden shifts in tempo, and wide ranges in dynamics, Molyneux’s overly dramatic reading goes to distract from the message of the book rather than enhance or stress his points. It took me very long to get through this book for that very reason. Point of the book: argumentation is the basis for peaceful resolution of conflict and cooperation. Convince one another through reason, or else fall pray to sophistry - irrational attempts to suppress reason through manipulation, lies, aggression, etc. Therefore argue for truth. Argue for the argument. And be willing to change your own mind if the face of truth and reason.

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  • Joshua A.
  • 31/01/2018

like an extra long podcast

I listen to free domain radio every day, so listening to Stefan speak for 5 hours was no difficult feat. this book has some great arguments and ideas in it. it's worth listening to a few times over.

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  • Josue Dias
  • 23/10/2019

too boring

too boring and technical. i expected something practical to be used day after. vla vla vla bla vla vla

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  • Anonymous User
  • 14/08/2019

Great Book, but way to political

I had hoped that Stefan would keep his personal politics (which I agree with btw) out of this Book. The book has a very inspirational and important message, and I am afraid that many people won't get it, because of the use of extremely politically charged examples. Therefore I have mixed feelings about it.

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  • Christopher O'Donoghue
  • 19/06/2019

Decent points but poorly written

This book only somewhat does what it proposes based on its title and opening chapter. It describes the importance of valid arguments fairly well, but then ruins the point by presenting arguments that don’t adhere to the same rules he communicates. The book also clearly has a political agenda. As more of a left-leaning centrist I recognize that he has some conservative views that I agree with and some issues with liberalism with which I don’t agree, but he frames the liberal belief system as primarily being based on flawed and/or invalid arguments but makes general statements with regard to conservative views as to not disparage them. It entirely contradicts the supposed point of the book. If we are are supposed to rely on the argument, then his own biased opinion should have been tempered in this book (maybe they were?). He should have kept his opinions to himself and focused on the topic of the book... or at least what the topic was supposed to be.

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  • Edwin Fröse
  • 16/01/2018

Red Pill

Ich kann kaum in Worte fassen, wie sehr dieser Mann mich und die Art und Weise, wie ich die Dinge sehe und beurteile, beeinflusst hat. Dank ihm sehe ich die Verkommenheit dieser Zeit und ihr unglaubliches Potenzial. In diesem Buch hat er zusammengefasst, was er in Youtube in unzähligen Stunden erklärt und als Beispiel vormacht. Natürlich bekommt er von mir nur die besten Bewertungen, da dieses Buch nicht nur Argumentieren und Diskutieren lehrt, sondern wie man lebt.

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  • amazon7946
  • 12/11/2018

highly educating, entertaining and mind-blowing

As all of Stefans books this is pure gold. Full of red pills, perfect analogies and the right amount of humor. I can recommend it to everyone who is in the pursue for truth, on a journey to self development or interested in expanding the mind.

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  • Paul Leitner
  • 11/09/2018

Not about logic or argumentation at all

short version: -) this is not a book about logic or crafting an argument but an incoherent rant pushing anarcho-capitalist/anti-socialist talking points in (poor) disguise. Think "one guy holding a stick saying 'I am a tree'" disguise -) while I have no problem with arguing against socialism (or anything, really), this is A) terribly lazily done and more importantly B) pretends to be an "impartial" and "logical" book WHICH IT IS NOT -) the book is one overlong rant without any red thread, meandering wildly around topics - did anyone bother to edit this? -) I am no classically trained philosopher by any stretch of the imagination but his misrepresentation of other philosophers, lazy argumentation and complete absence of logical rigor are painfully obvious -) *THE ARGUMENT* is brought up about 5 times a minute, never having been properly defined and meaning *whatever*, at various points in the book - example: “The first thing to understand is that The Argument is everything. The Argument is civilization; The Argument is peace; The Argument is love; The Argument is truth and beauty; The Argument is, in fact, life itself.” For all the reasons listed above this is just a terrible, terrible book. I went into this with no expectations or prejudice one way or the other, having never heard of Molyneux in my life. About half an hour in (I listened to the audiobook) it started to sink in that while this presents itself as a book about logic and rational argumentation it is really anything but - the author rambles on, mostly without rhyme, reason or a red thread pushing his blatant anarcho-capitalist agenda in your face. It is not suble. AT ALL! It was read by the author and while this should not be a criterion his voice performance is INFURIATING beyond measure - overly smug, patronising in tone of voice and choice of vocabulary, incredibly repetitive and overall vomit-inducing. This should not bother me as much as it does, but if I have to listen to Molyneux sigh *the AAAHGUMENT* (as he does, about 16 times a minute) once more, I will be sorely tempted to give myself a DYI lobotomy with a screwdriver. DO NOT read this if you have ever read any decent philosophy, EVER. And by all means STAY AWAY FROM THE AUDIO VERSION unless you want to hear Molyneux' voice in your head for MONTHS whenever you see the words "the Argument" anywhere. It's like a revolting aftertaste that just will not go away.

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  • Joschka
  • 26/03/2018

An Argument for The Argument

This book highlights the importance of real arguments for civilizations. No argument, no civilization. I hope you spread the argument and become more aware of false arguments

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  • M. Mertens
  • 01/08/2018

Horribly devious drivel

Absolute mistake, would never recommend. Backwards misogynistic xenophobic chauvinist propaganda thinly disguised as sincere discourse.

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  • Kindle-Kunde
  • 16/05/2018

More a critic of "the left" than anything elese

was difficult listening to this book. I expected real argumentation technics or you may say: tips and tricks. But this felt a lot more like a critic of "the left" than anything else. Moreover, some of the arguments were very poorly made like suggesting that (all) children of "single mothers" whatever was meant with this (from the tone of the reader and general comments one gets the sentiment or mental picture that this means promiscuous and irresponsible women) would be "better of" (again whatever this means, if I had to guess the author means economic or social consequences, and disregards any or all psychological consequences for children and mothers. But I guess the sentiment of the book is: they only have them selfs to blame for any negative effects so... though luck)   if they were given to adoption. I am open to such an Idea (giving all children of single mothers to adoption), but it is very casually presented as a proven better alternative as "the welfare state". So I guess I simply did not expect the argument to be just a political critic of "the left". I had the hope of getting some sort of skillset to be better at argumentation whatever the topic. This is far from what the book is. 

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  • Tomas
  • 10/08/2018

a challenge and a reward

It was a challenge to resume playing the book in the past week. I was already gone through a better part of it and knew what mindset i will be in if i turn it on again. Fighter's mindset. It seems that you don't have to fight every day, what kind of life is that, peace is the way. And so if I woke up peaceful and happy I know this feeling would probably not remain once I resume playing this book. And it's a good thing. Argument keeps you grounded and on the path. You might not feel the same naive accidental happiness, but happiness that is earned through struggle and defending the truth. Now that I said that I have to keep my conscience in check. This is a great book.

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  • sergiusnolle
  • 14/03/2018

unfortunate pretentious piece of garbage

one should always try to listen to arguments of those you oppose. and if presented based on reason think about the validity of your own positions. but the author can’t hide his disgust and complete lack of compassion as well as fails being objective in the first chapter. he bashes single mothers and the welfare state with weird and incomplete reasoning and therefor - even if the topic sounded interesting it is unfortunately a pretentious piece of garbage! very sad! (as his “president” of choice would say!)

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