what does it really take to create a world where people feel safe, respected, and free to be themselves?

a note before listening: this conversation includes discussions of rape, sexual violence, trauma, and the challenges survivors face in the aftermath. please take care of yourself while listening—or come back to this conversation another time.

in this episode of what she said, angie welcomes back her friend lindsay skatrud for the kind of conversation they've been looking forward to having more of—two friends sitting down, picking up where they left off, and making space for whatever comes up.

following angie's recent solo episode, what angie said: we are jane doe, lindsay begins by checking in with angie about what it felt like to share her personal experience with sexual assault. what follows is a thoughtful and deeply personal conversation about the ways we respond to sexual violence, the systems that allow harmful behavior to persist, and what it might look like to begin changing those systems.

drawing on her own experience in greek life, lindsay reflects on the culture of fraternities and sororities, the pressure to belong, and the ways group dynamics can make it difficult to challenge harmful behavior. angie shares her perspective as the mother of a teenage son preparing to leave for college, including the conversations they've had about consent, accountability, and what it means to speak up when something isn't right.

from there, the conversation turns to lindsay's experience raising a young daughter—and a perspective on boundaries that feels especially important. rather than focusing solely on teaching children to establish boundaries, what if we focused more on teaching the adults around them to respect the boundaries they already have?

angie and lindsay also explore the ways we can create meaningful change closer to home, whether through parenting, our workplaces, or our local communities. lindsay shares how her approach to advocacy has evolved with motherhood and how she's found opportunities to make a difference through her work.

and, because it's lindsay, the conversation wouldn't be complete without a little astrology. drawing from the chani app by chani nicholas, lindsay shares insights about her north node in aquarius, her nodal return, and the connection between her astrological chart and the themes of justice, joy, and collective care that have woven their way through the entire conversation.

in this episode:

• why lindsay wanted to revisit angie's conversation about sexual assault
• what it felt like for angie to share her story publicly
• raising a teenage son in a culture that still struggles with consent and accountability
• lindsay's firsthand experience with greek life and its complicated systems
• the pressure to belong and the difficulty of speaking up
• how small, everyday boundary violations can shape what we come to accept
• raising children who trust their instincts and know their boundaries matter
• why respecting children's autonomy starts with the adults around them
• finding meaningful ways to create change within our own communities
• recognizing the humanity of others through our work and everyday interactions
• lindsay's nodal return, north node in aquarius, and reflections from the chani app
• making room for joy, pleasure, and the freedom to be ourselves

throughout this conversation, angie and lindsay keep coming back to the same idea: we may not be able to change everything happening around us, but we can pay attention to how we show up for the people in our lives.

we can raise children who understand respect. we can honor another person's boundaries. we can create workplaces where people feel seen and supported. and we can continue having conversations that challenge us to think differently.

perhaps that's where meaningful change begins—in the ways we choose to treat one another, every day.

thank you for being here—and, as always, take really good care of yourself. 🤍

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what happens when one woman's story feels painfully familiar to millions of others?

a note before listening: this episode includes conversations about rape, sexual violence, trauma, and the ways survivors are often scrutinized in the aftermath. please take care of yourself while listening—or come back to this conversation another time.

in this solo episode, angie returns to what she said with a conversation she's known she needed to have, but one that hasn't been easy to begin.

reflecting on a recent sexual assault case in the news, angie shares how watching another young woman's experience be questioned, analyzed, and debated has brought her back to her own experience of sexual assault—and to the realities so many survivors face in its aftermath. she talks about the expectation of a "perfect victim," the many ways our bodies and minds respond to trauma, and why reporting sexual violence can ask survivors to surrender some of the most private and painful parts of their lives to public scrutiny.

but this conversation isn't only about what happens after sexual violence. it's also about what we can do differently.

angie reflects on raising a teenage son and why preventing sexual violence has to mean teaching boys far more than simply "don't rape." it means conversations about consent, bodily autonomy, emotional regulation, respect, accountability, and the responsibility to challenge other men when something isn't right. it also means refusing to place the burden of preventing sexual violence entirely on women and girls.

in this episode:

• why there is no "perfect" way for a survivor to respond to trauma
• the scrutiny survivors can face after sexual violence
• why so many assaults are never reported
• angie's own experience with sexual assault and its aftermath
• knowing when to step away from difficult news and take care of yourself
• moving through rage, grief, helplessness, and hope
• what we need to teach boys about consent and bodily autonomy
• teaching young men to challenge harmful behavior in other men
• taking the burden of preventing sexual violence off women and girls
• why survivors never owe anyone their stories
• the power of speaking when and if we are ready
• choosing to believe that talking about these things can help change them

nearly one in five women in the u.s. has experienced rape in her lifetime. these aren't stories belonging to some distant group of women. they are our sisters, our mothers, our daughters, our friends and coworkers.

they are us. we are jane doe.

and still, angie doesn't want to end this conversation in hopelessness.

survivors are talking. parents can teach differently. men can hold other men accountable. communities can choose to protect people instead of protecting their image. and those who are ready to tell their stories can help someone else feel a little less alone.

thank you for being here—and, as always, take really good care of yourself. 🤍

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what if the next chapter doesn't require you to rush into it?

in this shorty episode, angie checks in after ten weeks of what she said to reflect on where the show has been, where it's going, and the fullness of the season she's in right now.

she shares what's changing at what she said—including a slower rhythm, some familiar voices returning as co-hosts, and more space for the deeper, wider conversations she's been craving. after a brief september break, the show will return in october with a slightly new iteration and plenty more to explore.

angie also shares what's unfolding beyond the podcast: growing her business alongside one of her best friends, turning her former airbnb into a new office and podcast studio, approaching 50, preparing for her son to eventually leave for college, and finding herself surrounded by friendships and relationships that make this particular season feel especially full.

in this shorty:

• reflecting on the first ten weeks of what she said
• why the show is shifting toward deeper conversations and familiar voices
• giving herself permission to move away from a weekly schedule
• the women and friendships holding different versions of her through life's seasons
• growing a business alongside a best friend
• creating a new home for the podcast
• approaching 50 with excitement instead of dread
• making room for change while staying present for what's here now
• why this chapter feels much more like a beginning than an ending

consider this the end of a little season one—and a glimpse of what's coming next.

thank you for being here, for listening, and for growing alongside us. we'll see you in october. 🤍

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