This is a Live Q&A I hosted with Suzanne Stabile during one of our Type·ish Summits (formerly called EnneaSummits). Some of the things we cover include how to respond to conservative Christian criticism of the Enneagram, whether certain types are more prone to narcissism or other mental health diagnoses, how trauma affects your type, how to identify your type without a test, and what healthy growth looks like for Twos, Sixes, Nines, and more. If you've ever wished you could be a fly on the wall and listen in as Suzanne shares her seasoned wisdom, this episode is the next best thing.

You can stay up to date with all that Suzanne is doing at https://suzannestabile.com. There you’ll find a link to her best-selling Enneagram books, courses, in-person cohorts, speaking events, and so much more.

0:00 Audio Intro

0:31 Welcome

2:30 Responding to Enneagram Critics

8:33 Personality Disorders & Type

11:24 What Healthy Twos Look Like

16:03 The Best Way to Learn the Enneagram

20:34 Can You Be a Different Kind of Type 4?

22:12 Finding Your Type Without a Test

23:32 Your Presence Matters (Type 9)

26:29 When Your Partner Isn't Growing

29:17 Women in Ministry Leadership

32:57 Best & Worst Enneagram Pairings

35:06 Participation vs. Merging (Type 9)

37:15 Productive Thinking for Type 6

42:41 Trauma & Finding Your Type

47:18 Final Thoughts

48:24 Outro

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I'm joined by Dr. Dan Siegel—New York Times bestselling author, psychiatrist, and one of the world's leading voices on interpersonal neurobiology. We discuss his groundbreaking book on the Enneagram, how a chance meeting with EnneaTypes creator Claudio Naranjo changed the trajectory of his work, and why this once-skeptical neuroscientist spent the next two decades helping build a bridge between modern neuroscience and the Enneagram.

You can stay up to date with all that Dan is doing at https://drdansiegel.com/ and you’ll also find a link there to his books, including Personality and Wholeness in Therapy: Integrating 9 Patterns of Developmental Pathways in Clinical Practice.

0:00 Audio Intro

0:30 Welcome

2:14 What Is Interpersonal Neurobiology?

6:51 Defining the Mind

15:18 Meeting Claudio Naranjo

19:00 Discovering the Enneagram

28:09 Building a Scientific Framework

41:26 Nine Patterns of Personality

45:46 Personality, Attachment & Wholeness

51:44 Final Thoughts

53:22 Outro

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Last week, Russ Hudson and I traveled back to the 1970s and 80s to tell the story of the modern Enneagram movement. In Part 2 today, we’ll go beyond the timeline and reflect on what was happening behind the scenes as the Enneagram exploded in popularity during the 1980s and 90s. We’ll talk about the confusion, controversies, and competing schools of thought that marked those early years, along with the pivotal moments that first brought many of the leading teachers together. You can follow Russ at https://russhudson.com/.

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0:00 Audio Intro

0:31 Welcome

2:22 Russ Hudson's Biggest Breakthroughs

7:44 The Enneagram's Rise in the 1980s & 90s

15:03 The Birth of the IEA

18:35 Where the Enneagram Came From

27:53 Claudio Naranjo & "Automatic Writing"

31:00 How Don Riso Expanded the Enneagram

38:42 What's Changed Since the Early Days?

42:03 What's Wrong with Enneagram Teaching Today?

47:40 Final Thoughts

49:03 Outro

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Russ Hudson and I travel back to the 1970s and 80s to tell the story of the modern Enneagram movement. Russ will also share his own personal journey—how he first encountered the Enneagram through the Gurdjieff tradition, met Don Riso, and eventually began a decades-long partnership that would shape the Enneagram as many of us know it today. In Part 2 next week, we’ll go beyond the timeline and reflect on what was happening behind the scenes as the Enneagram exploded in popularity during the 1980s and 90s. We’ll talk about the confusion, controversies, and competing schools of thought that marked those early years, along with the pivotal moments that first brought many of the leading teachers together. You can follow Russ at https://russhudson.com/.

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0:00 Audio Intro

0:31 Welcome

2:36 The Modern History Begins

5:09 Russ Hudson's Enneagram Journey

9:42 Meeting Don Riso

12:31 The Don Riso Partnership

17:30 Building the Modern Enneagram

24:43 The Early 1990s & Copyright Lawsuit

29:09 The Birth of the IEA

35:20 Christianity & the Enneagram

42:32 The Future of the Enneagram

49:24 Meeting Claudio Naranjo

51:29 Final Thoughts

53:27 Outro

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In today's episode, Hunter Mobley is going to give a presentation on the passions and virtues, covering each Enneagram type's passion and virtue, what they are, and their spiritual roots. If you enjoy this presentation, you can buy Hunter's latest book called, "Letting Go, Finding You - Uncover your truest self through the enneagram and contemplation."

0:00 Audio Intro
0:20 Welcome
4:58 Type 1
8:42 Type 2
12:12 Type 3
15:36 Type 4
18:44 Type 5
21:52 Type 6
24:55 Type 7
27:40 Type 8
29:32 Type 9
38:42 Outro

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• Spiritual Identity, Idealized Self, and Avoidance Patterns | Lisa Vischer (Ep. 7)
• Spiritual Practices for Each Enneagram Type | Pastor A.J. Sherrill (Ep. 8)
• How Each Enneagram Type Relates to God | Lindsey Lewis (Ep. 9)
• Image of God in Each Enneagram Type | Marilyn Vancil (Ep. 10)
• What Every Type Wants & What They Settle For | Jesse Eubanks (Ep. 11)
• Enneagram Vices and Virtues | Hunter Mobley (Ep. 12)

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In today's conversation, Jesse Eubanks gives a well-researched, eloquent presentation on what every Enneagram type really wants, their deepest desire, and what they settle for instead. To watch the presentation on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@typeishofficial

0:00 Audio Intro
0:20 Welcome
12:54 Type 2
17:28 Type 3
22:07 Type 4
27:45 Type 5
31:18 Type 6
36:20 Type 7
41:34 Type 8
46:58 Type 9
50:54 Type 1
54:52 Outro

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• Spiritual Identity, Idealized Self, and Avoidance Patterns | Lisa Vischer (Ep. 7)
• Spiritual Practices for Each Enneagram Type | Pastor A.J. Sherrill (Ep. 8)
• How Each Enneagram Type Relates to God | Lindsey Lewis (Ep. 9)
• Image of God in Each Enneagram Type | Marilyn Vancil (Ep. 10)
• What Every Type Wants & What They Settle For | Jesse Eubanks (Ep. 11)
• Enneagram Vices and Virtues | Hunter Mobley (Ep. 12)

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In today’s conversation, Marilyn Vancil and I explore how the image of God—the imago Dei—is uniquely expressed in each Enneagram type. While the Enneagram was developed in the 60s and 70s as a psychological tool for ego reduction, early teachings often focused more on what’s broken in us than what’s beautiful. That began to shift as voices like Russ Hudson and Marilyn Vancil helped reframe the Enneagram—not just as a map of our struggles, but as a window into our strengths, our goodness, and the ways we reflect God.

This conversation is a powerful reminder: You are more than your patterns. You carry something sacred..

0:00 Audio Intro
0:20 Welcome
8:58 Type 1
12:07 Type 2
14:27 Type 3
17:17 Type 4
20:46 Type 5
22:47 Type 6
24:55 Type 7
28:05 Type 8
32:20 Type 9
37:53 Outro

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• Spiritual Identity, Idealized Self, and Avoidance Patterns | Lisa Vischer (Ep. 7)
• Spiritual Practices for Each Enneagram Type | Pastor A.J. Sherrill (Ep. 8)
• How Each Enneagram Type Relates to God | Lindsey Lewis (Ep. 9)
• Image of God in Each Enneagram Type | Marilyn Vancil (Ep. 10)
• What Every Type Wants & What They Settle For | Jesse Eubanks (Ep. 11)
• Enneagram Vices and Virtues | Hunter Mobley (Ep. 12)

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In today’s conversation, Lindsey Lewis and I explore how each Enneagram type uniquely relates to God—both at its healthiest and where it can quietly drift off course. This episode will reveal how your type’s strengths can either deepen your connection with God or subtly distort it.

0:00 Audio Intro
0:20 Welcome
2:23 Type 1
9:59 Type 2
15:05 Type 3
21:53 Type 4
29:26 Type 5
36:28 Type 6
41:49 Type 7
46:30 Type 8
53:42 Type 9
59:19 Outro

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• Spiritual Identity, Idealized Self, and Avoidance Patterns | Lisa Vischer (Ep. 7)
• Spiritual Practices for Each Enneagram Type | Pastor A.J. Sherrill (Ep. 8)
• How Each Enneagram Type Relates to God | Lindsey Lewis (Ep. 9)
• Image of God in Each Enneagram Type | Marilyn Vancil (Ep. 10)
• What Every Type Wants & What They Settle For | Jesse Eubanks (Ep. 11)
• Enneagram Vices and Virtues | Hunter Mobley (Ep. 12)

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