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    • Building Tools for Shape Up – Klaus Breyer & Matt Lane (Co-founders of Dumplink)
      Dec 6 2023

      #Bonus: In season 1 of this podcast, I've been speaking with a lot of teams who have adopted Shape Up, a delivery framework originally created at Basecamp. If you've never heard of Shape Up, check below for a link to the video "Shaping in a nutshell" by Ryan Singer, former head of strategy at Basecamp and author of the book "Shape Up - Stop Running in Circles and Ship Work that Matters".

      Today I am joined by Klaus Breyer and Matt Lane for a very special bonus episode. Matt and Klaus met through the Shape Up forum when Matt posted about seeking collaborators around a Shape Up tooling idea he had.

      Well, this infamous post has now turned the two into co-founders for Dumplink, a lightweight project/task management tool for teams that use Shape Up. But really, calling it "project management software" is not doing it justice, for it's really a communication, de-risking, and sense-making tool for the build teams on software projects.

      Listen to Klaus and Matt nerd out about "directed acyclic graphs" and "foliation graphs" and catch an exclusive demo of Dumplink. Since you're listening to the audio version of this podcast, I recommend you check out the video version, too, to get the full picture. There's a link below that takes you directly to the screen-sharing part of our conversation.

      Make sure to listen carefully to find out how you can test Dumplink for yourself, today!

      Links:
      Timestamp for the Dumplink demo video: https://youtu.be/8rvqxvQ1bKQ?si=IQKyNNpUYfSZorY-&t=1870
      Matt's post in the Shape Up forum: https://discourse.learnshapeup.com/t/community-project-proposal-to-help-get-companies-started-with-shape-up/1069/1
      Klaus' talk at the Shape Up Practitioners meetup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEnrFbR2qso

      Dumplink: https://dump.link/

      Shaping in a nutshell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_8M23wVjXk
      Shapers & Builders job board: https://www.shapers.builders

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      1 h et 16 min
    • Working with Shape Up in a Product Collective – Marin Petrov (Products at Camplight)
      Nov 29 2023

      Today I am speaking with Marin Petrov who's part of Camplight, a collective of people working together on software projects and products. Within Camplight, Marin and his team is working on Assista, a trello powerup for better time tracking.

      This conversation is part of a series about companies that use Shape Up, a delivery framework originally created at Basecamp. If you've never heard of Shape Up, check the show notes for a link to the video "Shaping in a nutshell" by Ryan Singer, former head of strategy at Basecamp and author of the book "Shape Up - Stop Running in Circles and Ship Work that Matters".

      In our conversation, Marin explains why Shape Up felt like such a natural fit for the team working on Assista, and how it gave them great language to activities like Shaping. It was fascinating for me to learn about Camplight's setup as a "collective", a way of working together that feels like an "indie hacker, but together" kind of approach.

      Enjoy!

      Links:
      Marin on Twitter: https://twitter.com/marinwaves
      Camplight: https://camplight.net/
      Shaping in a nutshell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_8M23wVjXk
      Shapers & Builders job board: https://www.shapers.builders

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      1 h et 8 min
    • The Principles of Shape Up – Ilya Sterin (VP Engineering at Medidata)
      Oct 17 2023

      #9: Today I am speaking with Ilya Sterin, VP of Engineering at Medidata, a clinical trial technology company from the US with around 3,000 employees.

      This conversation is part of a series about companies that use Shape Up, a delivery framework originally created at Basecamp. If you've never heard of Shape Up, check the show notes for a link to the video "Shaping in a nutshell" by Ryan Singer, former head of strategy at Basecamp and author of the book "Shape Up - Stop Running in Circles and Ship Work that Matters".

      In our conversation, Ilya explains his approach to introducing Shape Up at scale. We go deep on the core conceptual pillars within Shape Up, like "working iteratively", setting a big enough yet small enough batch size, and fixed time / variable scope. Instead of a dogmatic "book-in-hand" approach, Ilya chose to introduce Shape Up to his teams by reasoning from the principles of software engineering and avoiding putting a label on this "new way of working" as much as possible.

      If you feel like Shape Up might help your team improve but are afraid of being turned down, Ilya's experience might just be what you need to get started. Enjoy!

      Links:
      Ilya's website: https://ilyasterin.com/
      Ilya on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ilyasterin/
      Ilya on Twitter: https://twitter.com/isterin
      Medidata: https://www.medidata.com/
      Shaping in a nutshell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_8M23wVjXk
      Shapers & Builders job board: https://www.shapers.builders

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      1 h et 23 min
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