Épisodes

  • Same Problem, Two Completely Different Brains with Sarah Haynes & Shari Morton
    Oct 21 2026

    "We need more leads." "Our marketing isn't working." "The leads are bad." "Nobody uses our CRM."

    Sound familiar?

    Homebuilders run into these challenges all the time, but what if the problem you're trying to solve isn't actually the problem?

    In this episode of Just Make It Pretty, Sarah Haynes and Shari Morton, partners at Shared Drive, take six common challenges homebuilders face and approach each one from two completely different perspectives.

    Sarah looks at problems through marketing strategy, branding, messaging, buyer psychology, and customer experience. Shari looks through the lens of CRM, online sales, data, technology, processes, and operations.

    They're answering one question: Where would you look first?

    Neither gets to hear the other's answer before sharing her own.

    From underperforming community launches and questionable lead quality to CRM adoption and the pressure to sell more homes in 90 days, Sarah and Shari explore why the most obvious solution isn't always the right one.

    And sometimes, the most valuable thing you can do is bring someone into the conversation who sees the problem completely differently.


    Shari Morton | Chief Growth Officer, Shared Drive

    Shared Drive: https://shareddrive.com/

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    47 min
  • Standing Out in Sales, Business, and Your Career with MaryBeth Berry
    Oct 14 2026

    What actually makes you different, and why does knowingthe answer matter?
    In this episode, Sarah sits down with Mary Beth Berry to explore differentiation from several angles: how salespeople stand out when products and services look similar, how companies uncover what truly sets them apart,and how knowing your own strengths can shape the direction of your career.

    Mary Beth also shares how her recent move from trainingsales teams to selling the programs she once taught has changed the way she thinks about sales conversations, organizational challenges, and what it really takes for people and companies to change.


    Connect with MaryBeth:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/marybethberry/https://jeffshore.com/


    Register for the Womens Circle: https://jeffshore.com/WLC

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    38 min
  • The Leadership Shift with Abby Cornelius
    Sep 30 2026

    Being great at the work does notautomatically make someone great at leading it.
    In this episode, Sarah sits down with Abby Cornelius, leadership trainer with Elevate Actually, to talk about the shift from high-performing individual contributor to effective leader.


    After more than 20 years in homebuilding, moving from internto executive leadership, Abby saw the same pattern over and over: talented people being promoted because they were excellent at their jobs, then expected to lead without ever being taught how.


    Together, Sarah and Abby unpack what changes when your role shifts from doing the work yourself to leading people, teams, and the business.

    They explore the habits that keep leaders stuck in the weeds, the difference between helping and rescuing, how to create accountability without carrying everything yourself, and the leadership skills organizations often assume people already know.


    Connect with Abby:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/abbycornelius/

    https://elevateactually.com/

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    34 min
  • The Story Behind Fostering Hope with Chris Hartley
    Oct 7 2026

    Chris Hartley has spent years bringing Life Lessons withDaddy to life.

    On the surface, Fostering Hope is a children's book about kindness, empathy and helping children and families experiencing foster care.

    But underneath it is a much more personal story aboutfatherhood, legacy, intentionality and the responsibility we have to teach children how to see and care about people whose lives may look very different from their own.

    Rather than simply talking about what's in the book, thisconversation explores why Chris needed to create it in the first place, what the process demanded of him, and what he hopes his daughters and other children carry with them long after they've outgrown the book.


    Pre-Order List: https://lifelessonswithdaddy.com/

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    39 min
  • Why Sales Training Doesn’t Stick with Malcolm Walker-Hendricks
    Sep 23 2026

    Sales teams spend a lot of time learning how to sell better. Conferences, workshops, scripts, objection handling, discovery frameworks, follow-up strategies...the training is there.

    So why does so little of it actually stick?

    In this episode of Just Make It Pretty, Sarah sits down with Malcolm Walker-Hendricks of SalesAsk to talk about what actually helps salespeople improve and where traditional sales training may be falling short.

    They dig into the difference between knowing what to do and actually changing behavior, why experienced salespeople often need awareness more than more information, and how better coaching can help teams improve the moments inside a sales conversation that ultimately drive results.

    They also explore why sales coaching so often turns into reviewing numbers, how managers can identify whether someone has a skill, practice, or accountability problem, and where AI can provide better visibility and feedback without turning salespeople into robots.

    If you lead, coach, or work on a sales team, this conversation will challenge you to think differently about how salespeople actually get better.

    In this episode:

    • Why traditional sales training often fails to create lasting behavior change

    • The difference between training, practice, coaching, and accountability

    • What sales managers should pay attention to beyond conversion rates

    • Why someone can have 15 years of sales experience without actually getting 15 years better

    • How feedback closer to the sales conversation can improve performance

    • Where AI fits into sales coaching without replacing the human element

    • What salespeople can do over the next 90 days to meaningfully improve

    Connect with Malcolm Walker-Hendricks:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/malcolmwh/
    SalesAsk: https://www.salesask.com/
    Email: malcolm@salesask.com

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    32 min
  • Creating More Women Leaders with Erin Yarbrough
    Sep 16 2026

    Creating More Women Leaders: Curiosity, Advocacy, and Knowing When to Step Up

    What does it actually take to create more women leaders?

    In this episode, I’m joined by Erin Yarbrough, Director of Marketing at Ideal Homes, to talk about leadership from a different angle. Instead of only asking how women can become leaders, we talk about what happens once you’re in a position to help someone else get there.

    Erin shares how curiosity helped her transition from higher education into homebuilding, build relationships quickly, and grow into leadership. We also dig into the difference between mentorship and true advocacy, why being the person who is always “helpful” can sometimes become a career trap, and how leaders can use their influence to create opportunities for people who may not otherwise get invited into the room.

    We also talk about professional reputation, boundaries, failure, work-life balance, and the responsibility leaders have to model the kind of culture they say they want to create.

    This conversation is really about becoming more intentional, both with the opportunities you pursue for yourself and the opportunities you create for other people.

    Connect with Erin:
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erin-yarbrough/
    Email: eyarbrough@ideal-homes.com

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    42 min
  • Becoming Heroic’ish With Cory Charles
    Sep 9 2026

    In this episode of Just Make It Pretty, Sarah sits down with Cory Charles, author of HEROIC’ish and founder of SuperHERO Mindset, for a conversation about the idea underneath his new book: identity.

    Rather than simply walking through the book, Sarah and Cory dig into the harder questions around how our identities are formed, what happens when we outgrow them, and why the version of ourselves that helped make us successful can sometimes become the very thing holding us back.

    They explore the difference between a skill gap and an identity problem, whether confidence comes before or after action, what happens when other people are still attached to an old version of you, and how you begin becoming someone new before you have the evidence to prove you can.

    In This Episode

    • Where our identities actually come from
    • Why you can’t always “out-skill” the way you see yourself
    • How successful people can still struggle with identity
    • Why success can sometimes make it harder to change
    • The difference between self-awareness and using “this is just who I am” as an excuse
    • What happens when you outgrow an identity that once served you
    • Why your internal identity can lag behind your external success
    • Whether confidence creates action or action creates confidence
    • How the people around us reinforce who we believe we are
    • Practical ways to start changing an identity you’ve outgrown

    About The Guest

    Cory Charles is the founder of SuperHERO Mindset and author of HEROIC’ish. His work challenges people to look beyond skills and tactics and examine the beliefs, identity, and mindset underneath how they show up in their careers, leadership, relationships, and lives.

    In HEROIC’ish, Cory explores what it means to own your identity and become the hero of your own story, even before you feel completely ready.


    Connect With Cory & Preorder The Book

    Connect with Cory Charles on LinkedIn

    Pre-order HEROIC’ish


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    41 min
  • Keeping a Brand Consistent with Kista Cook
    Sep 2 2026

    A polished logo and brand guide may establish a company’sidentity, but they do not guarantee that people will use the brand correctly.

    In this episode, Sarah sits down with Kista Cook, owner ofPerpetual Maker, to explore what happens after a designer hands a brand over to the people who must use it every day.

    Kista shares what she has learned from years of watchingwell-designed brands slowly go rogue as employees grab outdated logos, improvise in Canva, order unapproved merchandise, and use AI-generated visuals under deadline pressure. Together, Sarah and Kista discuss why these mistakes happen, how brand inconsistency affects trust, and what companies can do to make staying on-brand easier than improvising.

    The conversation also explores how designers can createflexible systems rather than restrictive rules, how organizations can train employees to make better visual decisions, and why consistency does not have tocome at the expense of creativity.


    Guest: Kista Cook, Owner of Perpetual Maker

    Links:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/kistacook/
    https://www.kistacook.com/

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    40 min