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Forget the Rulebook: A Kiwi Approach to Equine Assisted Learning | Nik Lewis | EAW 65

Forget the Rulebook: A Kiwi Approach to Equine Assisted Learning | Nik Lewis | EAW 65

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 ✨ "It's not the breed, it's the brain." – Nik Lewis Rupert Isaacson speaks with Nik Lewis of Horses R Us NZ, an equine facilitated learning program near Taupo in the Central North Island of New Zealand. For about eight years, Horses R Us has worked with young people and adults, including neurodiverse clients and clients working on social-emotional goals or riding, with no set parameters. As Nik puts it, if they don't know something, they go and find out.What makes the program distinctive is how little of the session is fixed. Nik describes working with whoever "rocks in on the day," keeping an end goal while letting the route change. Clients stay matched with one horse, each with a plan B horse, and in one story a 29-year-old non-verbal client walks and talks a jumpy Thoroughbred calm, reversing the usual roles of helper and helped. Her horses live in herds outdoors around the clock, and they get their own outlet: Nik and her horses also hunt and jump wire fences.The conversation covers Nik's bareback childhood in rural New Zealand, her path from teacher aide and classroom teacher to burnout in 2015, her EAGALA training, her mentorship with a social worker, and the 2018 leap into running the program full time. It also looks at how Māori tikanga, language, Matariki and Māori stories find their way into sessions, and where story and sense of place could take the work next. If you want to support the show, you can do so at Patreon.If you want to support the show, you can do so at Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/LongRideHome🔍 What You'll Learn in This EpisodeHow Nik's "if we don't know, we go and find out" approach shapes a program with no set parametersWhy Nik links the Kiwi "number eight wire" mentality to a flexible, can-do way of workingWhat Nik sees as the difference between outcome-focused and client-focused work, based on her understanding of RDAHow a client and a horse can swap roles, with the client becoming the horse's regulatorWhy clients stay matched with one horse, and how a plan B horse and horse care days keep the relationship goingWhat takiwatanga, the Māori word for autistic, means: in their own time and spaceHow Nik moved from teaching burnout through EAGALA training and a social worker mentorship to leaving a secure income in 2018What Nik found limiting about the EAGALA triangle when she trained, and how she says the model has since evolvedHow hunting and jumping wire fences shaped Nik's riding, and why she says it is the brain, not the breed, that counts in the hunt fieldWhy Nik's horses get hunting weekends as an outlet, and how Rupert describes rotating therapy horses through varied workHow Nik keeps her horses in outdoor herds around the clock and lets them "be horses"How Nik uses volcano language to help younger children notice what their bodies feel before an outburstHow Māori tikanga, language, Matariki and stories such as Tangaroa show up in Nik's sessionsWhy Rupert suggests story and sense of place could be a next step for the work ✨ "It's not the breed, it's the brain." – Nik Lewis 04:34 Nik reaches for "number eight wire," the Kiwi habit of fixing things with whatever is at hand, and Rupert answers with the Afrikaans saying "Ons sal 'n plan maak" (we'll make a plan).11:17 Nik explains takiwatanga, the Māori word for autistic, which translates as "in their own time and space," and Rupert asks her to say it again so he can write it down.18:10 A 29-year-old non-verbal client takes a jumpy Thoroughbred into the round pen while a farmer moves cows nearby, and walks and talks with him until he settles.21:45 Nik explains that each client stays matched with one horse, that most have a plan B horse, and that a horse with an abscess turns the session into a horse care day.54:13 Nik describes growing up jumping eight-wire dry stock fences with battens, and at 1:05:05 explains why she was taught that wire is safer than solid fences.1:06:55 Rupert recalls the Horse Boy trail ride challenge with a big teddy bear in front of the rider, and how Nik took it a step further and hunted over wire fences with the teddy bear.1:09:18 Asked what makes a good hunt horse, Nik says it is the brain, not the breed, and that you can't train for the atmosphere of the hunt field at home.1:44:30 Nik talks about the volcanoes she uses with younger children to name what happens in the belly, the toes and the head before the mouth starts.2:01:45 Nik links a "rompy stompy" child to the god Tangaroa and to nearby Ruapehu, which spits out every now and then.2:15:49 Nik shares how her program celebrates weirdness, including the young client who first looked at rope reins for a week and then wouldn't let go of them.📚 Contact, Projects, and Resources MentionedNik Lewis – Horses R Us NZ Website: https://horsesrusnz.com New Trails Learning Systems – Horse Boy Method, Movement Method & Takhin Equine Integration https://ntls.co Patreon Support https://www.patreon.com/LongRideHome🌍 Follow ...
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