Today’s episode is one of our longest and most layered conversations yet.
We’re joined by two returning favorites, Dr. Lina Haji and Dr. Mac Hereford, licensed clinical psychologists and close friends, for a 3 hour psychological deep dive into the Netflix documentary Unknown Number, focusing on Kendra Licari.
We break down:
• Psychopathy and manipulation
• Motivations behind fabricated harassment
• The psychological impact on victims
• Law enforcement response and systemic gaps
• Online bullying and lack of investigative resources
But before we get into the forensic analysis, we talk about something equally important:
What does friendship look like between two psychologists?
How do they consult each other on clinical dilemmas?
How do they support one another through burnout and physical illness?
How do high achieving professionals learn to rest?
We also explore perfectionism, pushing through pain, autoimmune challenges, body doubling, intellectual friendship, and what healthy professional support really looks like.
This episode is clinical, forensic, funny, emotionally honest, and thought provoking.
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To find our guests: Lina Haji, Psy.D., LMHC & Dr. Mac Hereford, Ph.D
https://www.risepsychological.com/
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https://revealpsychology.com/
https://www.instagram.com/revealingtheivorytowerpodcast/
Episode Breakdown:
0:00 Attention
0:59 Intro
8:20 Scenes
19:04 Interview
1:43:00 Unknown Number Talk
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