In this episode of Cross Talk at the Kroc, Jonathan Raymer sits down with Majors Mark and Mariska Potter to dive into the heart of youth ministry—why kids and young people aren’t just the future of the church, they’re the right now. From their global work at Salvation Army International Headquarters to stories like Malachi’s £5 miracle that turned into a £5 million project, the Potters share how children can lead, inspire, and transform communities when we truly see them as God’s gifts. Tune in for real talk on mentorship, intergenerational faith, and how giving young people space to grow and wrestle with big questions can spark miracles—both spiritual and practical.

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In this episode of Cross Talk at the Kroc, host Jonathan Raymer heads west to explore the bold, unconventional beginnings of the Salvation Army’s Western Territory with special guest Lt. Colonel Don McDougald. From laypeople launching the Army in San Francisco, to the birth of the iconic Red Kettle, early disaster response during the San Francisco earthquake, and unforgettable ministries like the Charioteers, Alcatraz prison outreach, and courageous legal battles for gospel freedom, this conversation highlights a legacy marked by innovation, holy boldness, and meeting human need wherever it existed. It’s a powerful look at how God used faith-filled pioneers to shape ministry in the wide-open West—and a challenge for today’s Salvation Army to carry that same courage forward.

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Sermon preached on January 18, 2026 at The Salvation Army Kroc Center by Major Jonathan Raymer