This week Mark and David ostensibly talk about the book and movie versions of Solaris. Solaris is a story that asks some deep questions like:

• What are the limitations of Science?
• How do you determine if an entity is conscious?
• What are 50 ways to kill your re-animated loved one?

However, Mark triggered David by asking about AI. This causes David to go on a long and tedious explanation of why LLMs are not conscious. Which is basically a recapitulation of:

https://gracefulatheist.com/2026/06/07/humanism-and-ai/

They discuss this aritcle in Verge: AI bots started a religion — humans immediately followed

https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/975017/ai-spiralism-chatbot-movement

Counter points to my argumetns on LLMs:

Are LLMs conscious?

https://preposterousuniverse.com/podcast/2026/08/10/363-chandra-sripada-on-how-llms-and-humans-are-cognitive-cousins/

Do LLMs plan?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=locKEKxG3os

Other topics Mark and David veer into:

• The Odyssey
• Morality
• Re-dos

Mark and David watched "The Legend of Boggy Creek" and discuss the Fouke Monster and the Big Foot legend.

Should the creature be called:

• The Fouke Monster
• Big Foot
• Sasquatch
• The Squatch

We veer into:

• How truly atrocious "The Legend of Boggy Creek" movie is
• Our appreciation for the musical interlude in the movie
• The personal vendetta the Fouke Monster has for one group of people
• The different ways Mark and David look at evidence
• Cryptids and stories around the camp fire
• What humans get out of monster stories
• Science progresses one tomb stone at a time
• Science Fiction and dreamers led us to our modern world

Earlier in June more UAP documents were declassified. A document dump, if you will. Ostensibly, that is the topic of this weeks Certainly Dubious. We also veer into topics such as these:

• Calling them UAPs vs UFOs
• Science changes its mind and has an attitude
• In which we accidentally talk about Covid 19
• Fighter pilots are heroes and no one should ever doubt them
• The Drake equation and the Fermi paradox
• Borges' Library vs Monkeys with typewriters
• Mark and David assert their sanity and that is not a demand, that is a solid fact! What we demand is solid facts!"
• God is cool with aliens
• Should angels be considered aliens?
• How open minded can you be?
• How to avoid an anti-moral bender