Solaris and AI
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This week Mark and David ostensibly talk about the book and movie versions of Solaris. Solaris is a story that asks some deep questions like:
- What are the limitations of Science?
- How do you determine if an entity is conscious?
- What are 50 ways to kill your re-animated loved one?
However, Mark triggered David by asking about AI. This causes David to go on a long and tedious explanation of why LLMs are not conscious. Which is basically a recapitulation of:
https://gracefulatheist.com/2026/06/07/humanism-and-ai/
They discuss this aritcle in Verge: AI bots started a religion — humans immediately followed
https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/975017/ai-spiralism-chatbot-movement
Counter points to my argumetns on LLMs:
Are LLMs conscious?
https://preposterousuniverse.com/podcast/2026/08/10/363-chandra-sripada-on-how-llms-and-humans-are-cognitive-cousins/
Do LLMs plan?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=locKEKxG3os
Other topics Mark and David veer into:
- The Odyssey
- Morality
- Re-dos