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De : Chris Gleason Peter Haberman & Phil Ostrander
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“Beyond ArtLess" with Chris Gleason, Peter Haberman & Phil Ostrander is a podcast that explores the friendships and the community that exists in and outside of the arts and arts education. In each episode of Beyond ArtLess, one of the hosts reveals his mystery guest to the other two. What comes next is a fun-filled conversation revealing the joy of friendship and the artlessness of the hosts. Unlike most successful classrooms, this show is not well planned and probably not worth your time.

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    • Eytan Wurman
      Feb 14 2026

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      In this episode of the Beyond ArtLess Podcast, we dig into Common Time Pathways, a smarter, saner way to connect music students and colleges. Born from one band director’s “why is this so hard?” moment, the platform organizes recruiting data and levels the playing field for programs of all sizes—no dusty spreadsheets required.

      Founder Eytan Wurman joins us to explain how their matching algorithm pairs students with colleges based on majors, interests, and financial fit, all while keeping data more secure than the locked percussion room. We also look ahead as Common Time Pathways expands into theater, dance, and visual art, and talk about why early, intentional connections help create lifelong musicians—and keep students in the right schools.

      Smart ideas, real impact, and just enough ArtLess banter to keep things interesting.

      Learn more about Eytan here:

      https://www.convergenceensemble.org/eytan-wurman-board-member

      https://www.linkedin.com/in/eytanwurman/

      Check out CommonTime Pathways Here:

      https://www.ctpathways.com/


      CREDITS:

      Samara Joy - You Stepped Out Of A Dream (Studio Version) https://youtu.be/vVKbeUs0a_A?si=yLNZeCjWJ6x5k9xh Watch the official music video for “You Stepped Out Of A Dream” by Samara Joy. Listen to the new single ‘You Stepped Out Of A Dream’: https://SamaraJoy.lnk.to/PortraitID

      The Sun in September · Omar Thomas Large Ensemble https://youtu.be/qCwSOqUZ0Vk?si=ELq6B1HVhnBU4WlY Griot Songs ℗ 2025 Omar Thomas Music Released on: 2025-02-07 Main Artist: Omar Thomas Large Ensemble Composer: Omar Thomas


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      FREE MUSIC:

      Wisconsin Arts Celebration Project (Marie Douglas “Yellow Birds”)

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      54 min
    • Steven Campbell
      Feb 7 2026

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      In this episode of Beyond Artless, we’re thrilled to welcome Steve Campbell, tubist with the Minnesota Orchestra, for a conversation that goes well beyond the low notes.

      Steve shares what it’s really like to build a career in one of the world’s great orchestras—from the discipline and dedication behind orchestral excellence to the humor, humility, and humanity that keep music-making joyful. Along the way, he reflects on practice, preparation, and the often-unsung role of the tuba in shaping the sound and soul of an ensemble.

      What you’ll hear in this episode:

      • Steve’s path to the Minnesota Orchestra
      • The realities of orchestral life and long-term musicianship
      • Lessons learned from decades of performing at the highest level
      • Advice for young musicians dreaming of orchestral careers
      • Stories from the stage that are thoughtful, funny, and deeply musical

      This episode is a celebration of craft, curiosity, and commitment—and a reminder that every great ensemble is built on musicians who listen deeply and lead from wherever they sit.

      Tune in for wisdom, wit, and world-class musicianship—beyond artless.


      CREDITS

      Reflections of the Mississippi The Quad City Symphony Orchestra, Steve Campbell, tuba, and Mark Russell Smith, conductor, perform Michael Daugherty's Reflections of the Mississippi, mvts. 3 and 4, on Sunday, October 2, 2016, in Centennial Hall, Rock Island, IL. https://youtu.be/kinQB_ZLAHw?si=J4IRmAdRG_8AomOJ


      Marsalis' Tuba Concerto The rarely spotlighted tuba takes center stage in a recent concerto by the eminent composer, jazz trumpeter and bandleader Wynton Marsalis—fusing traditions ranging from classical to bebop to boogaloo. Of note are a passage in which the soloist plays the tuba and sings simultaneously, and a blistering finale that nods to bebop saxophonist Charlie “Bird” Parker. https://youtu.be/a6OEDekFJlw?si=_Se-uGpe4-T1rV70 Conductor Jonathan Taylor Rush led Principal Tuba Steven Campbell with the Minnesota Orchestra in this performance on May 19, 2023.


      Esa-Pekka Salonen: Nyx Esa-Pekka Salonen: Nyx (2010) Hannu Lintu, conductor Finnish Radio Symphony Orchestra Helsinki Music Centre, 25 January 2013 The FRSO recorded this piece in 2011 in Helsinki. This is the Finnish concert premiere. The world premiere was performed in Paris. https://youtu.be/jm4wlf7VkCk?si=iISqCM4VY4E45a8z


      Tango Corazon, Hanna Lehtonen For Grade 2-3 Trombone and Grade 3 Band: https://www.leadingtonesmusic.com/sto... https://youtu.be/CSd2iwsYKe0?si=_nYdHwVjL6DAf_ec


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      BUILDING BETTER BANDS DAY (MAY 23):

      https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/education


      RISING MUSIC EDUCATOR PROGRAM (MAY 22):

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      FREE MUSIC:

      Wisconsin Arts Celebration Project (Marie Douglas “Yellow Birds”)

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      1 h et 7 min
    • Andrew Mast
      Jan 31 2026

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      Welcome to this week’s super spreader episode compliments of Phil Ostrander. After recovering from our Midwest illnesses your hosts welcome Andy Mast, Associate Dean of the Conservatory at Lawrence University. Andy shares his journey from a high school tuba player to a recognized educator and administrator, providing insights into effective mentorship, navigating career transitions, and fostering collaboration across music communities. Whether you're an aspiring teacher, seasoned conductor, or music administrator, Andy’s stories and advice offer valuable guidance for growth and success. PLUS a fun Rappin’ with Songer and a Band Boozler that might actually be helpful.

      Links:

      • Lawrence University - Music Department
      • Vincent Persichetti Society
      • Andy Mast - Bio & Profile

      CREDITS:

      Echoes Of The Inner Prophet- Melissa Aldana

      Echoes Of The Inner Prophet- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxS8wrlqJow


      Cyrille Aimée with the Emmet Cohen Trio | La Vie En Rose

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81viyOKgx0w


      Percy Grainger: Lincolnshire Posy - Lawrence University Wind Ensemble

      Andrew Mast, conductor; Sonu., rapper/artist Wednesday, November 16, 2022

      Appleton, Wisconsin, U.S.A.


      Hans Zimmer - "Time" from the album 'Inception (Music From the Motion Picture)'. Hans Zimmer composed the score of 'Inception', a film directed by Christopher Nolan.- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c56t7upa8Bk


      REGISTER NOW:

      BUILDING BETTER BANDS DAY (MAY 23):

      https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/education


      RISING MUSIC EDUCATOR PROGRAM (MAY 22):

      https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/education


      FREE MUSIC:

      Wisconsin Arts Celebration Project (Marie Douglas “Yellow Birds”)

      https://dpi.wi.gov/fine-arts/wisconsin-arts-celebration-project-0


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      Our sponsor Silent Stage Podiums. https://www.arcofrog.com/silentstagepodiums

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      1 h et 5 min
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