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Jason is joined by writer Wang Ping for a wide-ranging interface about the infinite potential of the body, what makes Gary Snyder a true master, doing the work in your dreams, invisible whips, dragons and rivers, and how it's not possible to walk into the wrong room. This episode also features WRTES's first reading in Chinese, with Ping reading her translation back into Chinese of Gary Snyder's English translation of a Han Shan Cold Mountain poem. That doesn't happen every episode. Don't miss it.

Thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork, Joe Emde for help with the intro, DJ Max in Tokyo for the wizard music, and you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. And, if you feel like it, check out the podcast I co-host with Scottish writer & pal Iain Maloney, Books About Bands, available at https://booksaboutbands.buzzsprout.com/ as well as all the usual places. Cheers.

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Sorry for the delay, folks—been busy with the washing & the cleaning & that—but here at last is my free-ranging chat with Gary Barwin, roaming from how one ends up in a place to David McFadden to walking like James Joyce to other people's milk. We even get around to some of Gary's early shit. Enjoy. Thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork, Joe Emde for help with the intro, DJ Max in Tokyo for the wizard music, and you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening.

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Jason welcomes Jaclyn Desforges for a convivial interface about letting the robots do all the stuff, writing about coconut oil, Clarice Lispector, lonely feet, weird babies, and running for mayor of Milton, Ontario. A splendid time is guaranteed for all. Thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork, Joe Emde for help with the intro, DJ Max in Tokyo for the wizard music, and you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening.

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