Evan Dungate of Gigpit joins us!

Gigpit, headquartered in Victoria and also running in Vancouver, is a new local live music platform that offers concert listings and a ticketing service, currently with no fees. The company has five young co-founders: Evan, Aidan Polglase, Ellie Scott, Josh Taylor, and MacKenzie Joyal. Will and Carson get a feel for their work and take a detour in the middle to discuss the Live Nation / Ticketmaster U.S. DOJ case.

(0:00) Let's get our $200k!

(1:46) Evan's background

(7:21) The Gigpit team

(10:33) Ticketing & no-fee PWYC model

(20:21) Live Nation found liable by jury

(27:15) Ticketweb & stealth subsidiaries

(31:59) Handling the pressure to grow

(34:51) How to win a presenter?

(38:48) Writing & video sessions

(44:15) How to get involved with Gigpit

(49:18) The Shaggy story

(50:46) Recommendations with Evan

Recs:

• Evan - Standard Issue Pleasure Model - Tripsitter | Christopher Atkins - Another Year | Hedonist - Scapulimancy
• Will - check out Infinite Catalog’s breakdown of Spotify’s Loud & Clear PR stats
• Carson - Charlotte Cornfield - Hurts Like Hell

FIND US:

Will

-YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@williamchernoff/

-Rhythm Changes: https://www.rhythmchanges.ca/

-Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/williamchernoff/

Carson

-YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ctworow/

-Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/ctworow.bsky.social/

-Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ctworow/

Hosted by Carson Tworow & Will Chernoff. Edited and mixed by Will Chernoff. A Chernoff Music podcast. Theme music by Carson Tworow.

(0:00) Toronto Blue Jays opening day

(2:31) Will's physical media level-up

(4:59) OpenAI shuts down Sora

(17:35) Spotify Artist Profile Protection

(30:29) Jasmine Sun on AI and creative writing

(50:44) Triple recommendations

Carson recs:

• Gregory Uhlmann - Extra Stars,
• Photokem - A Mat in the Garden,
• kJADE - On Everything I Love.

Will recs:

• Tomeka Reid Quartet - dance! skip! Hop!,
• Marquis Hill - (Beautifulism) Sweet Surrender,
• smush - standards EP.

FIND US:

Will

-YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@williamchernoff/

-Rhythm Changes: https://www.rhythmchanges.ca/

-Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/williamchernoff/

Carson

-YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ctworow/

-Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/ctworow.bsky.social/

-Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ctworow/

Hosted by Carson Tworow & Will Chernoff. Edited and mixed by Will Chernoff. A Chernoff Music podcast. Theme music by Carson Tworow.

let's talk about fully automated slopitalism and the threats to performance rights organizations & songwriters

No episode 2 weeks from now (Mar. 13), we return later in March.

(0:00) Music MCP (which got taken down)

(8:40) SOCAN's AI policies & advocacy

(36:23) "Pre-deplatformed" cool content

(50:27) Dave King of The Bad Plus' rant

(54:54) Recommendations

1. Darren Hemmings linking to Music MCP at Network Notes
2. SOCAN "Stop Unlicensed AI Training" petition
3. Ryan Broderick's story at Garbage Day: "The only taboo left is copyright infringement: the future of media is pre-deplatformed"
4. Nate Chinen's interview at The Gig with Dave King and Reid Anderson of The Bad Plus

Recs: Will - watch Sun Ra: Do The Impossible on PBS (if you can) and listen to the music of Sun Ra and his Arkestra,

Carson - listen to The Call by Bellbird

FIND US:

Will

-YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@williamchernoff/

-Rhythm Changes: https://www.rhythmchanges.ca/

-Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/williamchernoff/

Carson

-YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ctworow/

-Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/ctworow.bsky.social/

-Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ctworow/

Hosted by Carson Tworow & Will Chernoff. Edited and mixed by Will Chernoff. A Chernoff Music podcast. Theme music by Carson Tworow.