On this week’s 30 Minute Thursday, Jason Tartick is joined by The Curious Canadian to break down the biggest moments from his emotional and revealing conversation with Michael Allio and esthetician Jadé Marie Chapman.

Jason and David unpack Michael’s journey through grief, fatherhood, healing, dating in the public eye, and what stood out most from Michael and Jadé’s relationship dynamic. They also discuss the business side of influencing, modern relationships, and why audiences connected so deeply with the episode.

Plus, Jason shares stories from his recent trip to Portugal — including travel highlights, cultural observations, food, and a few unexpected moments along the way.

The guys also hit the latest pop culture headlines, social media conversations, and trending reality TV drama in another classic 30 Minute Thursday episode.

On this episode of Trading Secrets, Jason Tartick sits down with one of social media’s most emotionally honest couples — Michael Allio and Jade Marie Chapman.

Michael opens up about his deeply personal new book, Where the Wild Heart Grows, inspired by conversations with his son James about grief, healing, and life’s hardest transitions after losing his wife Laura. Together, Michael and Jade share how friendship became love, why they left the Hollywood lifestyle behind for a quieter life in Akron, and what it’s really like building a blended family rooted in honesty, growth, and emotional intelligence.

The conversation also dives into business and entrepreneurship as Jade shares the journey behind building her skincare company from scratch, while Michael gives an update on St. James Therapeutics and the groundbreaking clinical trial results that could help cancer patients manage painful chemotherapy side effects.

Plus, the couple talks Bachelor Nation, public relationships, money habits, investing, future marriage plans, and the biggest “trading secrets” they’ve learned about life, love, and betting on yourself.