Welcome to the fifth episode of The Silver lAINing, a SAINTS Podcast. I hope you enjoyed our previous conversation with Professor Ibrahim Habli and Dr. Laura Fearnley, where we explored the ethics of AI and the emerging threat of AI-driven psychological harm. During that episode, we referenced the ground-breaking work of Professor Magda Osman, our guest for the 5th episode.

Professor Osman is a Decision Scientist and Policy Analyst supporting policy impact at Leeds Business School, University of Leeds. She is also an Honorary Associate of the El-Erian Institute of Behavioural Economics and Policy, Cambridge Judge Business School and a Research Associate of the Centre for Existential Risk, University of Cambridge. In 2025, she published pivotal work addressing the conceptual challenges of defining—and legally protecting against—psychologicalharm when it comes to the internet of things. This research is timely given the intensifying global debate surrounding online safety.

How has our understanding of AI safety, harm, and risk shifted with the application of AI in everyday technologies?

In Episode 4 of The Silver LAIning, we explore why assistive technologies must be classified as safety-critical and whether a system can truly be considered "safe" if it lacks an ethical foundation.

Joining us for this deep dive are Professor Ibrahim Habli (Director of the UKRI AI SAINTS CDT) and Dr. Laura Fearnley (Research Co-Lead for SAINTS). Together, they offer candid insights into how interdisciplinary collaboration is the key to navigating the most pressing risks in the AI landscape.

What do carers, who deal with the intricacies of AI or health financing professionally, have to say about the role of technology in assisting health and social ca

Do assistive technologies make them and those they care for, feel psychologically assured?

Listen to SAINTS researcher Prenika Anand in conversation with Dr. Colin Paterson, the Training Co-lead and Professional and Academic Skills Lead for SAINTS and Debbie Paterson, Senior Technical Manager at The Healthcare Financial Management Association, the professional body for finance staff working in healthcare.

As a team in caring, Debbie and Colin bring us ageing, AI and safety perspectives that are rare to find!