In this episode of The Sanctuary, the McGees share their origin story: from Edgar Allan Poe awakening something in Daddy McGee as a kid, to Baby McGee's leather-clad femme awakening in the Deep South, to the moment they both realised they'd found someone they could be fully themselves with. They break down how they navigate play partners (quality over quantity), why they always play together, and the importance of friendship before anything else.

They also dive into their viral Creepy DM Readings—how a shared experience of receiving the same copy-pasted message at a munch turned into a beloved community event where they theatrically read creepy DMs aloud while protecting the identity of the senders. The goal isn't to shame individuals; it's to shame the game.

Plus, they get real about the importance of humanising yourself in the kink community, why consent and communication are non-negotiable, and what they'd tell their younger selves (spoiler: they're just as shocked as you'd expect).

This is a conversation about trust, laughter, and what happens when you find someone who complements you in every way.

Baby & Daddy McGee have been exploring the world of kink together for well over a decade. Within the last five years, their journey has taken them into the public kink space, where they have grown to enjoy a sense of community.

Outside of kink, Baby McGee is an active member of her local community, giving time to humanitarian causes while also working as a yoga instructor.

Daddy McGee is a writer and musician, currently at work on his next project.

The Sanctuary Episode 181: Jacqueline Pascarl - Menopause & Sleep Expert

She was a ballet dancer, a television journalist, a special advisor to Nelson Mandela, a princess who escaped, a cancer survivor, and now a menopause mentor. Meet Jacqueline, a woman who has lived more lives in 62 years than most people could imagine.

In this episode, Jacqueline takes us on a journey through her extraordinary life: from her early days in humanitarian aid and refugee camps, to her time as a princess in Malaysia, to the kidnapping of her two children by her former husband, to surviving ovarian cancer after being dismissed by doctors for nine months. She shares why she believes small acts of kindness can change the world.

Jacqueline also opens up about her passion for women's health and her Instagram page Menopause Mentor, where she empowers women to advocate for themselves. She gets real about the importance of early detection, the reality of menopause, and why she's done caring what people think.

This is a conversation about resilience, service, and the power of being unapologetically yourself.

Follow Jacqueline: @menopausementor.melb

The Sanctuary Episode 180: Nicol, Udo & Olaf - Latex & Pain

NicoleTalent & Community

Nicole is one of the clearest faces of Latex & Pain. She appears in many of the videos and brings a presence that is immediately recognisable — strong, controlled, expressive, and impossible to overlook. She does not simply stand in front of the camera. She shapes the emotional tone of what the viewer feels.

But her role reaches much further than performance. Nicole is deeply connected to the models and to the wider community around the project. She communicates, builds trust, keeps contact alive, and helps create the atmosphere in which people feel able to step into something unfamiliar. She is central to outreach, communication, promotion, and marketing, but always in a way that feels direct and human rather than mechanical. She helps make Latex & Pain visible, but also approachable.

UdoFounder & Operations

Udo is where Latex & Pain begins in physical form. As founder, he is the one who turned an idea into a place, a system, and an environment people could actually enter. He is not only part of many productions himself, but also the one who builds the spaces they happen in. Sets, structures, surfaces, rooms, details, transitions — he makes the world tangible.

His creative work is not abstract. It is built by hand. He transforms locations, creates visual tension through architecture and atmosphere, and gives Latex & Pain much of its unmistakable physical identity. The roughness, the industrial depth, the feeling that a place has history before the camera even enters it — all of that is deeply connected to his work.

OlafProducer & Director

Olaf is the one who gives the material form as a story. He films, directs, shapes the scenes, and develops many of the ideas that become the actual content. He does not just document what happens. He thinks about rhythm, tension, narrative direction, visual structure, and how a scene should unfold emotionally as well as technically.

He is also responsible for much of the technical side of the production: camera work, recording setup, production flow, and the details that make a scene hold together. Beyond that, he manages the website, administration, and finances. In many ways, he is both the director behind the lens and the person making sure the entire machine keeps moving.

The Sanctuary Episode 179: Senny Rolls - R&B Singer/Songwriter

Toronto-based vocalist and songwriter Senny Rolls is a rising force defined by a striking duality. Bridging his Chadian roots with his Canadian identity, and raised across Africa, Europe, and North America, his music is a borderless tapestry where R&B, Afrobeats, and Hip-Hop collide.

His journey began at age ten in the church choir, a foundation that grew into a signature style built on effortless versatility. Whether reaching for a piercing falsetto or grounding a track with smooth, storytelling rap verses, everything Senny creates is driven by a commitment to honesty and vulnerability.

Following the success of singles Demon Time, Motions, and his latest release Better Off, Senny is now putting the finishing touches on his most anticipated work to date: his debut EP, Before I Rose. Deeply resonant and genre-bending, his sound isn't just music; it's a cultural experience.

Check him out @sennyrolls

The Sanctuary Episode 178: Alyssa Harris - Founder & CEO The Karuna Lab

She started her spiritual journey in survival mode, pregnant, terrified, and searching for answers. Now, Alyssa Harris is an astrology coach who helps people birth new versions of themselves, one chart at a time.

In this episode, Alyssa takes us through her winding path: from tarot cards to a deep dive into astrology, from caring for her father to raising an autistic daughter, from relationship coaching to founding The Karuna Lab (karuna means compassion in Sanskrit). She breaks down why astrology is less about predicting the future and more about understanding your identity, your patterns, and your capacity for life.

Alyssa shares her four pillars of capacity and explains why you can't fix a capacity problem until you know which piece needs healing. She also gets honest about the challenges of being a helper, the loneliness of shapeshifting, and why self-compassion is the antidote to shame.Whether you're a skeptic, a believer, or just curious, this conversation will leave you thinking about who you are and who you could become.

Learn more @thekarunalab

The Sanctuary Episode 177: Milanda - Breaking Generational Patterns

Milanda is a content creator, affiliate marketer and online business owner. She built a brand around breaking generational patterns and choosing freedom over approval. Milanda left a decade of hospitality work and three jobs at once to build a high-ticket affiliate marketing business from scratch, restarting her life at 23 against her family’s wishes. She walked away from the stability everyone expected of her to build with no support and a lot of doubt thrown her way.

She’s not interested in being “just another content creator.” Milanda’s goal is to be a purpose-led guide and a voice for first-generation kids who feel like they’re living a life designed by their parents instead of one they chose. Speaking openly about the struggles most people are too afraid to say out loud and showing that it’s possible to build wealth and freedom without a traditional career path.

Her content blends raw personal storytelling with the mindset and money lessons she’s learned building a business from nothing, with one goal: retire before 30 and prove that freedom is possible without the traditional path.

Learn more @miilandxb

The Sanctuary Episode 176: John Pendal - Online Coach/ Kink Educator

Experienced BDSM educator John Pendal joins us all the way from England, UK.

In 2003, John became the 25th person to win the annual International Mr Leather contest in Chicago. Since then he has travelled around the world leading workshops, giving speeches, hosting events and performing kinky stand-up comedy.

Amongst others, John has taught BDSM workshops at Beyond Leather in Fort Lauderdale; Darklands in Antwerp; Down an Dirty in Melbourne, Australia; HunCon in Budapest; Kinkferansen in Oslo; Kinkfest in London; Leather Camp in Wichita; Lupercalia in Canada; Minnesota Leather Pride; Mr Leatherman Toronto; Palm Springs Leather Pride; Rome BDSM Conference; SINSations in Leather; SM Bergen, Norway; Spring in the South in Atlanta; Tribal Fire in Oklahoma; and for twelve consecutive years at Thunder in the Mountains in Denver.

He spent lockdown completing a diploma in life coaching and two qualifications in First Aid for Mental Health. He now works online with English-speaking clients anywhere in the world, both directly and as an Associate Coach with “Thriving Autistic”.

Learn more @johnpendal.coach

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My 3D Model of BDSM:https://www.leatherlondonguide.com/model.html

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Dr Stacy Friedman is a Clinical Sexologist, Certified Sex & Intimacy Coach, and the unapologetically bold host of The Purple Passion Project, on a mission to make midlife the hottest chapter of your sex life yet.

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