As the two venerable hosts return, they do so with the man and the legend - Dr. Alex Fingers. During the course of the podcast, the three gentlemen discuss the nature of security in schools, the efficacy of such measures and questions related to personal liberties and freedom in the face of security issues. For the sake of the podcast, Dr. Fingers and Mr. Miller avoid any direct discussions about either the Steelers or the Ravens and as a result, a good time was had by all. Worthy of a listen and thought provoking.

The two estimable hosts, after a detour of a survey that highlighted the best college football helmets, tackle the subject of creative tension. Starting with some of the greatest jazz groups and their work, the hosts debate whether tension among bandmates is essential for each to be at their best. The hosts then attempt to broaden this concept not only to other types of music but any form of collaboration - in industry or in education. What does it mean to lead a group of people, managing personalities, conflict and attempt to reach the best of what they can do? The hosts address all of these issues in what is certainly an episode worth listening to.

Your two favorite but underrated podcasters take a closer look at phones. Consulting the latest data from the Pew Research and other legitimate surveying companies, the two hosts take a look at some of the data on how people use their phones, at what point people get phones and the prevalence of them in American and foreign societies.