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Jefferson White joins us to discuss the art of acting, exploring how empathy plays a crucial role in bringing both villains and heroes to life on screen. We delve into audience poll results about whether movie villains deserve empathy, with 94% of listeners saying yes, and examine what makes a great actor through the lens of trying new approaches versus sticking with proven methods. White shares insights about iconic performances like Heath Ledger's Joker and discusses how actors must balance technical proficiency with bold creative risks.

We also talk about:

• The impact of legendary performances like Heath Ledger's Joker, James Dean, and Taxi Driver on future generations of actors

• How three-dimensional villains become more compelling when audiences can see themselves in the character

• The importance of learning technical skills before pushing creative boundaries

• Sean Penn's transformative performance in "I'm a Battle After Another."

• The balance between structure and spontaneity in artistic performance

Products, Software, Websites, People, or Places Mentioned:

Heath Ledger's Joker (The Dark Knight)

Todd Phillips' Joker

Joaquin Phoenix

James Dean

East of Eden

Taxi Driver

Travis Bickle

Sean Penn

One Battle After Another

Everything Everywhere All at Once

Demi Moore

The Substance

Brady Corbet

The Brutalist

Chicago PD (TV Drama)

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Learn more about Jefferson White here:

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In this Story Is King, Jefferson White joins the Make It Podcast to discuss his latest film, "Drink and Be Merry," a Christmas movie shot for just $60,000 in a New York dive bar. White shares insights into micro-budget filmmaking, his collaboration with director Adam Volderic, and the creative choices that gave the film its nostalgic, warm visual aesthetic. The conversation explores the challenges of making intimate character-driven stories about ordinary people facing extraordinary circumstances.

We also talk about:

• The smart production strategy of using two locations and ensemble casting with New York character actors

• How the film's color grading and cinematography evoke Christmas nostalgia and childhood memories

• Jefferson's journey from small-town Iowa to professional acting and his formative college experience

• The delicate tonal balance of playing a character who oscillates between high and low status

• Essential audition advice focusing on preparation, authenticity, and the long-term nature of an acting career

Products, Software, Websites, People, or Places Mentioned:

Drink and Be Merry

The Holdovers (Paul Giamatti)

It's a Wonderful Life

A Christmas Story

The Leftovers

Adam Volerich

Eye of the Duck Show

Leo Winters

The Ale 'N Wich (New York)

Benicio Del Toro

There Will Be Blood

Mount Vernon, Iowa

Iowa State University

Sophie Zucker

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