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Jefferson White joins us to discuss the art of acting, exploring how empathy plays a crucial role in bringing both villains and heroes to life on screen. We delve into audience poll results about whether movie villains deserve empathy, with 94% of listeners saying yes, and examine what makes a great actor through the lens of trying new approaches versus sticking with proven methods. White shares insights about iconic performances like Heath Ledger's Joker and discusses how actors must balance technical proficiency with bold creative risks.

We also talk about:

• The impact of legendary performances like Heath Ledger's Joker, James Dean, and Taxi Driver on future generations of actors

• How three-dimensional villains become more compelling when audiences can see themselves in the character

• The importance of learning technical skills before pushing creative boundaries

• Sean Penn's transformative performance in "I'm a Battle After Another."

• The balance between structure and spontaneity in artistic performance

Products, Software, Websites, People, or Places Mentioned:

Heath Ledger's Joker (The Dark Knight)

Todd Phillips' Joker

Joaquin Phoenix

James Dean

East of Eden

Taxi Driver

Travis Bickle

Sean Penn

One Battle After Another

Everything Everywhere All at Once

Demi Moore

The Substance

Brady Corbet

The Brutalist

Chicago PD (TV Drama)

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