For the first time, we recorded this episode live on the 25th Anniversary of Invincible. This means we were uncensored, unfiltered and very strong in our debate.

The Estate had one job.The biopic put Michael back in front of millions of people who hadn't thought about him in years. New fans. Renewed interest. A genuine cultural moment handed over on a plate.And the Estate's response? Crickets.Pez and Char get into what could have happened, what actually happened (spoiler: not much), and why watching this play out feels like déjà vu for anyone who's been paying attention.On the agenda:The biopic success: real and yet, completely squanderedEvery release and campaign that should have been lined up and readyThe Estate's ongoing talent for sitting on a goldmineWhy the fans keep doing the work nobody's paying them forBack To B*tchin' is where we stop being diplomatic.

We’ve all seen them! AI-generated “alternative shots” of Michael Jackson. Familiar photos, re-imagined…or completely altered.But are these creations harmless fun, or do they raise bigger questions about authenticity, ownership and legacy?In this episode, we sit down with Steven Paul Whitsitt, Michael Jackson’s personal photographer, to explore the impact of AI on Michael’s image. We dig into how these edits affect the original photographs, and whether they distort the vision Michael intentionally shared with the world.