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Welcome back to Sugar, Spice & Spirits Podcast — recorded live from Texas Hideout (North Houston) with your hosts Kelly Williams, Mindy Price, and Natalie Pilkinton. Don't forget to subscribe so we can keep bringing you the tea.

In this episode, we pour a Bandito Mojito and dive into the real-life chaos of dating again - whether you’re navigating relationships after divorce, rebuilding after losing a spouse, or trying to date with kids, blended families, and real responsibilities.

We talk about what changes when you date in your 20s vs 30s vs 40s vs 50s, why peace is the new sexy, and how to spot the difference between being alone and being lonely. Natalie shares how dating apps like Bumble actually played out in real life (yes, in a dance hall), and Kelly opens up about being thrown back into dating after losing her husband to cancer - and what it takes to find love again without losing yourself.

We also cover “yellow light” conversations (how to test where you stand without begging for clarity), why you should believe people when they tell you what they want, and the importance of communication in every relationship stage.

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Subscribe for more episodes on relationships, real life, mindset, and the conversations people actually have off-camera.

Cheers to you.

Timestamps (YouTube Chapters)

00:00 Intro — welcome back + where we are (Texas Hideout, North Houston)

00:27 The vibe at Texas Hideout + why it’s a fun venue

00:45 Sip of the Day: Bandito Mojito

01:11 Today’s topic: dating, relationships, and modern expectations

03:21 Kelly’s story: back in dating after 16-year marriage + widowhood

04:20 What people want in their 50s vs their 20s/30s

05:00 Peace over chaos (and why calm is attractive)

07:49 Companionship vs chemistry — what matters later in life?

08:47 Mindy on long-term marriage (it’s not perfect — it’s commitment)

11:59 Marriage myths: “perfect” relationships & real communication

14:26 Dating is a game — navigating intensity, loneliness, and boundaries

16:10 Alone vs lonely — learning to be okay with yourself

23:23 Natalie: dating after a long relationship + church/singles groups

24:55 Dating apps & scammers (Coffee Meets Bagel stories)

26:10 Bumble meet-cute at Big Texas (and the checklist plot twist)

28:34 Are you on the same page? Compatibility vs commitment

31:10 Divine timing + when it feels “easy” (but you’re finally ready)

31:54 Don’t let the wrong person occupy your space

32:23 Stop being someone’s option (hard truth)

33:14 The “void” relationship — necessary vs healthy

35:00 Believe what people tell you (no savior complexes)

39:10 The 12-month rule after major life trauma (death/divorce/job loss)

42:31 “Am I just a plus one?” — the commitment conversation

43:30 Matt Boggs “yellow light” questions to test the energy

46:05 Rejection, ghosting & emotional patterns

48:06 Stop overgiving + stop waiting by the phone

50:13 Set expectations clearly (plus one vs committed relationship)

51:09 Wrap-up + subscribe + cheers

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What’s the hardest part about dating today - the apps, the baggage, or the emotional whiplash?

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On this deeply emotional episode of Sugar, Spice & Spirits, Natalie Pilkinton, Mindy Price, and Kelly Williams open up about invisible recovery, caregiving, faith, and what it really means to heal.

From spinal surgery recovery to the emotional toll of being a caregiver, this conversation dives into:

• Why “bouncing back” is a myth
• The hidden struggles of recovery
• Caregiver burnout
• Asking for help
• Faith through hardship
• Adaptive equipment & independence
• The emotional cost of being strong

This isn’t a medical episode — it’s a human one.

If you’ve ever felt exhausted, unseen, or overwhelmed, this episode is for you.

📌 Subscribe for more real conversations about life, business, faith & real estate.

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00:00 Welcome to Sugar, Spice & Spirits

00:45 Sip of the Day & Introductions

02:34 “Invisible Recovery” Explained

03:12 Where “Bounce Back” Came From

06:22 Kelly’s Neck Surgery Story

09:40 Waking Up Without Hand Function

12:14 Visible vs Invisible Healing

14:48 Medical Advancements & Recovery

17:42 Adaptive Equipment Explained

19:55 How Button Hooks & Tools Work

21:09 Losing Independence After Surgery

25:36 When Stubbornness Hurts Healing

27:17 Asking for Help Isn’t Weakness

29:26 “It’s Not the Pain, It’s the Dependency”

31:12 Caregiver Burnout Story

33:53 The Hidden Cost of Being Strong

35:13 The Gift of Time, Not Just Meals

38:19 Letting Go of Control

41:05 Being a Daughter Again

43:21 Supporting Loved Ones From Afar

45:03 Life as a Full-Time Caregiver

50:21 Checking In After Loss

52:58 Final Thoughts & Prayer

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Hey everybody, it's Natalie Pilkinton with Sugar, Spice and Spirits! I'm here with my girls Mindy Price and Kelly Williams, and we're so excited to be here today. Please remember to like and subscribe to help us grow your youtube channel. Your support helps us and is crucial for our channel's growth, ensuring all our hard work pays off. We appreciate you being here!

What if real estate wasn’t just about money—but mission?

In this powerful first guest episode of Sugar, Spice & Spirits, we sit down with Wes Foster—pastor, foster parent, community builder, and real estate investor—to talk about faith, leadership, generosity, and a real estate system most agents never learn.

Wes shares how he:

• Transitioned from ministry into real estate investing
• Built over $500,000 in equity without using his own money
• Helps investors and agents scale through off-market deals Views money as a tool—not a taboo

This episode blends real estate strategy, life lessons, and purpose-driven leadership in a way you rarely hear—whether you’re an investor, agent, entrepreneur, or just someone asking “What’s the right way to build wealth?”

🍸 Sip of the Day: Lavender Martini 📍 Filmed at Texas Hideout, Spring, TX– a new community-focused venue

🎙️ In this episode, we cover:

• Why pastors don’t “work one day a week”
• The truth about money, faith, and leadership
• How off-market real estate actually works
• The 6 ways Wes gets paid on investor deals
• Why serving others often leads to abundance

00:00 – Welcome to Sugar, Spice & Spirits

00:25 – Introducing our first Guest Happy Hour

01:20 – Meet Wes Foster: pastor, investor & community leader

03:30 – Sip of the Day: Lavender Martini

06:15 – The reality of being a pastor (myths vs truth)

09:45 – Pastoring, burnout, and carrying other people’s pain

13:10 – Why foster care became a calling

17:40 – “Give everything away” – a life-altering decision

22:10 – What foster parenting teaches about purpose

26:30 – Faith, leadership, and real-life impact

30:20 – Why Wes entered real estate investing

33:10 – You don’t need money to invest in real estate

36:40 – Off-market deals explained

40:05 – The 6 ways Wes makes money in real estate

44:30 – Helping investors win without overpaying

48:45 – Why money is a tool, not a taboo

52:20 – Leadership lessons for agents & entrepreneurs

56:00 – Faith, work ethic, and doing what others won’t

59:30 – What’s next for Wes Foster

1:02:15 – Final thoughts & how to connect

👉 Subscribe for real conversations about real estate, business, and real life—no fluff, no guru nonsense.

📌 Follow Wes: YouTube & Instagram: @PropertyKings.co

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