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Welcome back to Sugar, Spice & Spirits Podcast — recorded live from Texas Hideout (North Houston) with your hosts Kelly Williams, Mindy Price, and Natalie Pilkinton. Don't forget to subscribe so we can keep bringing you the tea.

In this episode, we pour a Bandito Mojito and dive into the real-life chaos of dating again - whether you’re navigating relationships after divorce, rebuilding after losing a spouse, or trying to date with kids, blended families, and real responsibilities.

We talk about what changes when you date in your 20s vs 30s vs 40s vs 50s, why peace is the new sexy, and how to spot the difference between being alone and being lonely. Natalie shares how dating apps like Bumble actually played out in real life (yes, in a dance hall), and Kelly opens up about being thrown back into dating after losing her husband to cancer - and what it takes to find love again without losing yourself.

We also cover “yellow light” conversations (how to test where you stand without begging for clarity), why you should believe people when they tell you what they want, and the importance of communication in every relationship stage.

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Cheers to you.

Timestamps (YouTube Chapters)

00:00 Intro — welcome back + where we are (Texas Hideout, North Houston)

00:27 The vibe at Texas Hideout + why it’s a fun venue

00:45 Sip of the Day: Bandito Mojito

01:11 Today’s topic: dating, relationships, and modern expectations

03:21 Kelly’s story: back in dating after 16-year marriage + widowhood

04:20 What people want in their 50s vs their 20s/30s

05:00 Peace over chaos (and why calm is attractive)

07:49 Companionship vs chemistry — what matters later in life?

08:47 Mindy on long-term marriage (it’s not perfect — it’s commitment)

11:59 Marriage myths: “perfect” relationships & real communication

14:26 Dating is a game — navigating intensity, loneliness, and boundaries

16:10 Alone vs lonely — learning to be okay with yourself

23:23 Natalie: dating after a long relationship + church/singles groups

24:55 Dating apps & scammers (Coffee Meets Bagel stories)

26:10 Bumble meet-cute at Big Texas (and the checklist plot twist)

28:34 Are you on the same page? Compatibility vs commitment

31:10 Divine timing + when it feels “easy” (but you’re finally ready)

31:54 Don’t let the wrong person occupy your space

32:23 Stop being someone’s option (hard truth)

33:14 The “void” relationship — necessary vs healthy

35:00 Believe what people tell you (no savior complexes)

39:10 The 12-month rule after major life trauma (death/divorce/job loss)

42:31 “Am I just a plus one?” — the commitment conversation

43:30 Matt Boggs “yellow light” questions to test the energy

46:05 Rejection, ghosting & emotional patterns

48:06 Stop overgiving + stop waiting by the phone

50:13 Set expectations clearly (plus one vs committed relationship)

51:09 Wrap-up + subscribe + cheers

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On this deeply emotional episode of Sugar, Spice & Spirits, Natalie Pilkinton, Mindy Price, and Kelly Williams open up about invisible recovery, caregiving, faith, and what it really means to heal.

From spinal surgery recovery to the emotional toll of being a caregiver, this conversation dives into:

• Why “bouncing back” is a myth
• The hidden struggles of recovery
• Caregiver burnout
• Asking for help
• Faith through hardship
• Adaptive equipment & independence
• The emotional cost of being strong

This isn’t a medical episode — it’s a human one.

If you’ve ever felt exhausted, unseen, or overwhelmed, this episode is for you.

📌 Subscribe for more real conversations about life, business, faith & real estate.

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00:00 Welcome to Sugar, Spice & Spirits

00:45 Sip of the Day & Introductions

02:34 “Invisible Recovery” Explained

03:12 Where “Bounce Back” Came From

06:22 Kelly’s Neck Surgery Story

09:40 Waking Up Without Hand Function

12:14 Visible vs Invisible Healing

14:48 Medical Advancements & Recovery

17:42 Adaptive Equipment Explained

19:55 How Button Hooks & Tools Work

21:09 Losing Independence After Surgery

25:36 When Stubbornness Hurts Healing

27:17 Asking for Help Isn’t Weakness

29:26 “It’s Not the Pain, It’s the Dependency”

31:12 Caregiver Burnout Story

33:53 The Hidden Cost of Being Strong

35:13 The Gift of Time, Not Just Meals

38:19 Letting Go of Control

41:05 Being a Daughter Again

43:21 Supporting Loved Ones From Afar

45:03 Life as a Full-Time Caregiver

50:21 Checking In After Loss

52:58 Final Thoughts & Prayer

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Hey everybody, it's Natalie Pilkinton with Sugar, Spice and Spirits! I'm here with my girls Mindy Price and Kelly Williams, and we're so excited to be here today. Please remember to like and subscribe to help us grow your youtube channel. Your support helps us and is crucial for our channel's growth, ensuring all our hard work pays off. We appreciate you being here!

What if real estate wasn’t just about money—but mission?

In this powerful first guest episode of Sugar, Spice & Spirits, we sit down with Wes Foster—pastor, foster parent, community builder, and real estate investor—to talk about faith, leadership, generosity, and a real estate system most agents never learn.

Wes shares how he:

• Transitioned from ministry into real estate investing
• Built over $500,000 in equity without using his own money
• Helps investors and agents scale through off-market deals Views money as a tool—not a taboo

This episode blends real estate strategy, life lessons, and purpose-driven leadership in a way you rarely hear—whether you’re an investor, agent, entrepreneur, or just someone asking “What’s the right way to build wealth?”

🍸 Sip of the Day: Lavender Martini 📍 Filmed at Texas Hideout, Spring, TX– a new community-focused venue

🎙️ In this episode, we cover:

• Why pastors don’t “work one day a week”
• The truth about money, faith, and leadership
• How off-market real estate actually works
• The 6 ways Wes gets paid on investor deals
• Why serving others often leads to abundance

00:00 – Welcome to Sugar, Spice & Spirits

00:25 – Introducing our first Guest Happy Hour

01:20 – Meet Wes Foster: pastor, investor & community leader

03:30 – Sip of the Day: Lavender Martini

06:15 – The reality of being a pastor (myths vs truth)

09:45 – Pastoring, burnout, and carrying other people’s pain

13:10 – Why foster care became a calling

17:40 – “Give everything away” – a life-altering decision

22:10 – What foster parenting teaches about purpose

26:30 – Faith, leadership, and real-life impact

30:20 – Why Wes entered real estate investing

33:10 – You don’t need money to invest in real estate

36:40 – Off-market deals explained

40:05 – The 6 ways Wes makes money in real estate

44:30 – Helping investors win without overpaying

48:45 – Why money is a tool, not a taboo

52:20 – Leadership lessons for agents & entrepreneurs

56:00 – Faith, work ethic, and doing what others won’t

59:30 – What’s next for Wes Foster

1:02:15 – Final thoughts & how to connect

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We didn’t wait until it was perfect — we launched anyway.

From imposter syndrome to hot-tub recordings, this is what real podcasting looks like.

Get a look back when we first launched and sat down at Podcast Movement with Acast for a quick interview, that turned into a raw, honest conversation about what it really takes to launch a podcast - imperfections, self-doubt, messy setups, and all.

We’re Sugar, Spice & Spirits - a podcast about business, life, real estate, and everything in between, served with strong opinions, real conversations, and a cocktail (or mocktail) to kick things off.

In this episode, we talk about:

• Launching a podcast before feeling “ready”
• Why authenticity beats perfection every time
• Building community instead of chasing vanity metrics
• Imposter syndrome, self-doubt, and betting on yourself
• Creating a podcast as a real business — not just a hobby
• Why relatability matters more than studio perfection

If you’ve ever thought about starting a podcast, business, or creative project — this is your sign to start now and refine as you go.

00:00 – Meet Sugar, Spice & Spirits 00:16 – What our podcast is really about 00:41 – Why we came to Podcast Movement 01:18 – Launching brand new (and learning fast) 01:49 – Our origin story (radio competitors → co-hosts) 02:58 – How “Sugar & Spice” became our name 03:52 – Podcast structure & future guest plans 05:06 – Biggest podcasting takeaways so far 06:20 – Connecting authentically with listeners 07:37 – Who our podcast is really for 09:55 – Empty nesters, caregivers & real life transitions 11:09 – Why we chose video + mobile recording 12:40 – Letting go of perfection in business & branding 14:11 – Why chemistry matters more than scripts 15:26 – Imposter syndrome & taking the leap 17:55 – What success looks like for this podcast 20:40 – Managing fear, doubt & growth as entrepreneurs 23:11 – Why starting imperfectly beats not starting at all 24:35 – Final thoughts & encouragement to just begin

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Christmas hits different when you’re an adult — and in this episode of Sugar, Spice & Spirits, we prove it with White Elephant gift chaos, rapid-fire holiday “would you rather” questions, and the kind of stories you only tell after the coffee kicks in.

Natalie’s repping from New York City at Christmas, while Mindy and Kelly bring Texas cheer (and peppermint everything). Then we get into the real fun: the wildest gift exchange moments we’ve ever seen — including a gift that definitely didn’t follow the price limit, a 50-cup industrial coffee maker that should’ve come with an apology, and yes… a LIVE CHICKEN showing up like it paid rent.

00:00 Christmas catch-up: NYC vs Texas holiday vibes 00:46 Sip of the Day starts: Starbucks + peppermint coffees 01:30 The snowman vs snowwoman joke (yes… that one) 02:05 Topic kickoff: craziest White Elephant gifts 02:44 The gift that broke the $50 limit (and everyone fought over it) 03:50 Best Christmas memory: Disney at Christmas 05:42 Natalie’s “what was he thinking?” gift: the 50-cup industrial coffee maker 06:52 The “old closet potpourri” disaster gift (RIP to that invite) 07:46 Firefighter calendar twist + hidden cash surprise 08:39 Someone brought a LIVE CHICKEN to the gift exchange 🐔 09:15 White Elephant vs “Cajun Christmas” rules (set expectations or suffer) 10:50 Rapid Fire: Would You Rather holiday edition begins 12:54 Early gifts vs sleeping in + early guests vs late guests 14:04 Decorated house vs stress-free Christmas (pick your poison) 15:45 Host 20 people vs travel with a layover (holiday survival mode) 17:00 Christmas as an adult: gratitude, traditions, and shifting seasons 19:21 Kids growing up + Christmas priorities changing 21:43 Blended families, loss, and cherishing time together 26:14 Final toast + Merry Christmas

We wrap with a heartfelt “Christmas as an adult” conversation: family traditions, kids growing up, blended schedules, gratitude, and remembering what matters most when life changes.

If you’ve ever hosted the holidays, survived a gift exchange, or wondered why Christmas feels so different now — this one’s for you.

Subscribe for more: holiday laughs, real talk, and friendship with a splash of chaos.

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Welcome back to Sugar, Spice & Spirits, where bold women sip good drinks, have real conversations, and call out the truth with humor, grit, and zero fluff.

Today we’re broadcasting from Bing Pizzeria & Draft House in Alvin, TX - amazing drinks, amazing food, and even better company. What We Cover in

This Episode: The real definition of integrity (and why it matters more today than ever) How overpromising destroys trust Business, leadership & sales examples of ethical vs. unethical behavior Parenting follow-through and teaching integrity at home Real estate stories: craftsmanship issues, syndication honesty & private money integrity Communication breakdowns, paradigm shifts & setting healthy boundaries Why consumers value integrity over price How to rebuild trust after you’ve lost it

Sip of the Day Peach Long Island - smooth, dangerous, and guaranteed to make you tell the truth.

Timestamps:

00:01 – Welcome to Sugar, Spice & Spirits at Bing Pizzeria & Draft House

00:40 – Appetizer: Weekend Recaps (Galveston Ghost Tour, Aggie Game, DIS App)

04:03 – Sip of the Day: Peach Long Island Review

04:53 – Main Dish: What Integrity Really Looks Like Today

05:47 – Why Consumers Walk Away: The Cost of Broken Promises

06:55 – Trust, Follow-Through & Keeping Your Word

09:18 – Overpromising, Underdelivering & Business Burnout

11:15 – Integrity in Investing, Syndications & Real Estate

12:57 – Poor Craftsmanship Stories (New Construction Drama)

14:30 – Saying NO as a Boundary & Integrity Tool

16:27 – Staying in Touch, Friendships & Reputation Capital

17:37 – Authenticity in the Age of AI

19:37 – Tech Fail: The Wind Attack + Mary Poppins Moment

20:01 – Gen Z Expectations vs. Gen X Reality

22:09 – Tangent Tax: Parenting Styles & Follow-Through

23:55 – Parenting Integrity: Consequences, Consistency & Respect

26:21 – Integrity in Friendship & Calling Out Your People

28:57 – Flippers, LLCs & Real Estate Reality Checks

30:37 – Private Money, Due Diligence & Doing Right by Lenders

31:39 – Vulnerability, Used Car Lots & Being Taken Advantage Of

32:56 – When People Lack Integrity (and How to Spot It)

33:36 – Paradigm Shifts & Seeing Through Others’ Lenses

34:49 – Lost Art of Communication & Misinterpretation

38:19 – Friends Who Correct You: Real Accountability

40:12 – Trust, Apologies & Owning Your Mistakes

42:39 – Narcissism, Stubbornness & the Power of “I’m Sorry”

47:14 – Learning to Communicate Better as Adults

48:18 – Conference Story: When Expectations Get Lost in Translation

49:49 – Asking Better Questions & Clarifying Intent

51:00 – Human Empathy vs. Bureaucracy (The Hospital Story)

51:50 – Mattress Mack: King of Integrity in Houston

54:30 – Trust Statistics & Why Integrity Pays

58:19 – Integrity as Your Competitive Advantage

1:00:24 – Who You Influence Without Knowing It

1:00:40 – Sleeping Peacefully with a Clear Conscience

1:01:00 – Call to Action: Subscribe, Follow & Send Topic Ideas Want to Be Part of the Show? Have a topic idea or a spicy question? Drop it in the comments - listener submissions have become some of our best episodes!

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This episode dives into what integrity actually looks like - in business, marriage, parenting, friendships, and real estate. We discuss trust, communication, boundary setting, overpromising, leadership failures, and how honesty is the ultimate competitive advantage.

Highlights: Why integrity is more valuable than skill How Gen X, Millennials & Gen Z view honesty differently Real estate stories that reveal true character Parenting and follow-through Communication pitfalls that ruin relationships Owning mistakes and rebuilding trust

Location: Bing Pizzeria & Draft House, Alvin TX Follow the show and send us your topic ideas - we love creating episodes inspired by your real-life questions.

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Welcome back to Sugar, Spice & Spirits - the podcast where bold women sip good drinks, tell better stories, and unpack life, business, burnout, whiskey, friendship, and reinvention one episode at a time.

This week, we’re broadcasting across time zones, climates & emotional maturity levels, and yes - it is exactly as chaotic as it sounds.

Mindy checks in from a 50th Birthday Girls Trip in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee, complete with whiskey tastings, cabin mornings, scenic mountain views, and roller coasters scheduled for both daylight and darkness. Meanwhile, Natalie and Kelly are holding down the fort in Texas, proving our dynamic does not require one location to stay strong.

Tennessee Legend Distillery - Dirty Cream & Salted Caramel Cream (90 Proof) A “quick stop” for Baileys turned into a full whiskey tasting experience. We compare Dirty Cream to Bailey’s, review the flavor profile, coffee compatibility, holiday drink potential, and whether it’s worth a cross-state road trip to legally - or creatively - bring a few bottles home.

• Whiskey tasting in Pigeon Forge, TN • Tennessee Legend Distillery review • Bailey’s vs Dirty Cream — flavor breakdown • 90-proof Salted Caramel Cream tasting notes • Can you ship alcohol into Texas legally? • Girls trip in the Smoky Mountains • Roller coaster morning vs roller coaster night • Time management for business owners & moms • Task batching vs time blocking • AI for productivity, business planning & budgeting • Outsourcing, boundaries & the power of saying no • Accountability tracking for real progress • Entrepreneur spouse relationship dynamics • Big Rocks analogy — priorities before noise • Healthy self-care habits & rhythm-based work

For anyone juggling work, children, relationships, business, real estate, goals, ambition, burnout, and still trying to have fun - this episode is your permission slip.

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Cheers to time, whiskey, women, and weekends worth remembering.

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In this episode of Sugar, Spice & Spirits, Kelly Williams, Mindy Price, and Natalie Pilkinton are coming to you on location from Bing Pizzeria & Draft House in Alvin, Texas—home of beach volleyball, shuffleboard, and today’s Spicy Pineapple Margarita “sip of the day.”

Between bites of pizza and sips of jalapeño-kissed tequila, we dig into a heavy topic:

What really happens when your personal life detonates your professional life… and corporate decides you’re bad for the brand?

Using the recent shake-up surrounding the Roula & Ryan Show and longtime Houston radio personality Ryan Chase as a jumping-off point (based only on public reports and online chatter), we unpack the bigger picture:

How cancel culture and social media “gotcha” moments impact careers

What happens when private texts and DMs get leaked and go viral

The tension between corporate brand protection vs. loyalty to long-term employees

Why NDAs, morality clauses, and public perception drive so many decisions

Double standards around domestic violence, gender, and power dynamics

The mental, financial, and emotional fallout for families and reputations

Why every professional—radio host, realtor, CEO, or teacher—needs to protect their personal brand

How to respond when your own receipts might come back to haunt you

We also share personal stories about blended families, kids getting married, corporate politics, and why you never say anything in text you wouldn’t want read aloud in a courtroom… or on air.

This isn’t a gossip episode—we’re not claiming insider knowledge, and we’re not here to re-try anyone’s case. We’re talking about the principles:

Is it fair for companies to cut ties based on unproven allegations or old screenshots?

Where’s the line between freedom of expression and professional consequences?

How do you balance integrity, loyalty, and self-protection in 2025?

If you’ve ever worried that one bad night, one bad relationship, or one bad post could nuke your career… this one’s for you.

Timestamps

0:00 – Live from Bing Pizzeria & Draft House in Alvin, TX

2:00 – Sip of the Day: Spicy Pineapple Margarita

5:30 – When personal life collides with professional reputation

10:00 – Online rumors, leaked messages & NDA silence

18:00 – Domestic violence, hacking, and double standards

28:00 – Corporate America: morals or just brand management?

38:00 – Passive income, buying back your life from corporate

45:00 – Final thoughts: think before you text, post, or hit send

Call to Action

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