In this mini podcast show Dr. Perry discusses the idea of SIMs and DIMs from Lorimer Moseley. Safety In Me or Danger In Me thinking processes whichh change pain. Pain is an output signal from the body not an input signal from the tissues.

Learn how self talk can help you heal or hinder your progress.

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Dr. Perry and Luisa sit down with Morley Robbins—creator of the Root Cause Protocol and author of Cure Your Fatigue—for a practical and ellightening conversation on why so many people feel depleted, inflamed, and stuck in chronic symptoms.

This episode connects the dots between energy production, stress physiology, and the "hidden" drivers that keep pain patterns and chronic disease states switched on. Learn what to change first, and how to stop spinning your wheels with random supplements and overloaded advice.

You'll walk away with a map for recovery—especially if you deal with chronic pain, fatigue, brain fog, autoimmunity patterns, or slow healing.

Key takeaways from Cure Your Fatigue that we unpack on the show include:

(1) why mineral balance is foundational to nervous system stability and tissue repair

(2) how iron dysregulation can drive oxidative stress and inflammation

(3) the central role of copper and ceruloplasmin in safe iron handling and cellular energy

(4) why magnesium is a "stress mineral" that influences pain sensitivity, sleep, and autonomic tone

(5) how supporting mitochondrial energy production can change the entire symptom picture. If you're tired of chasing symptoms, this interview gives you a grounded, systems-based lens—and actionable steps—to improve resilience, reduce inflammatory load, and create better conditions for healing.

Do not miss this one.

Links to the book and the Root Cause Protocol.

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In this episode Dr. Perry talks about the immune system and how it knows the difference between self and not self. Including how you think abou yourself. Putting up a mask to the world hiding who you really are can increase your immune system response. It knows the self.

It's not just about toxins entering the body, its the toxins of the mind.

Change your story, change your immune system, change your pain, change your life.