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 Some Dare Call It Conspiracy is an investigative podcast examining conspiracy culture from the inside out.

Hosted by Brent Lee and Neil Sanders, the show explores how conspiracy narratives form, how they spread, and why they are so effective at capturing attention and loyalty. Both hosts spent years immersed in conspiracy belief before walking away, giving them first-hand insight into how these movements operate, evolve, and entrench themselves.

Drawing on lived experience, deep research, expert voices, and a distinctly British sense of humour, the podcast combines serious analysis with sharp, often self-deprecating commentary. The focus is on systems, incentives, and influence, rather than punching down at ordinary people caught up in belief.

The show is best known for its long-form Deep Dives into specific conspiracy narratives, commentary on conspiracy influencers and alternative media ecosystems, and interviews with journalists, researchers, and insiders working in this space.

Conspiracy thinking is no longer fringe. It shapes politics, public health, and personal relationships. This podcast exists to help listeners understand that landscape with clarity, context, and a sense of proportion.


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About the Hosts

Brent Lee is a writer, producer, and former conspiracy activist whose decision to leave the movement, and to speak openly about that process, attracted widespread media attention. On the podcast, Brent focuses on production, creative direction, and analysis grounded in lived experience.

Neil Sanders is a writer and researcher who was once regarded as a respected figure within the conspiracy world. Before leaving, he authored books on mind control and MKULTRA-related narratives and hosted his own programme on David Icke’s Ickonic network. Neil now leads on research and analysis for the show.

Together, they bring an insider’s understanding, investigative rigour, and a refusal to take grift seriously, even when the subject matter is heavy.

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Website: https://www.somedarecallitconspiracy.com
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    • Deep Dive • Satanic Illuminati Music Industry (7/13) [Full Series On PATREON]

      Deep Dive • Satanic Illuminati Music Industry (7/13) [Full Series On PATREON]
      Jan 26 2026
      Hello Initiates, and welcome to Some Dare Call It Conspiracy. In this episode, we continue our Deep Dive into the Satanic Illuminati Music Industry conspiracy theory, a long-running narrative that claims popular music is controlled by secret elites using occult rituals, mind control, and hidden symbolism to manipulate artists and audiences.

      Drawing on lived experience, research, and careful analysis, we trace where this theory comes from and why it continues to feel persuasive. We explore how older myths, moral panics, and recycled ideas are repackaged for new audiences, and how celebrity culture and alternative media ecosystems help keep the story alive.

      This series is sparked by a wave of claims circulating in alternative media, including an interview on Ickonic that alleges secret rituals, MKULTRA-style programming, and Faustian bargains within the music industry. Rather than accepting these stories at face value, we use them as a starting point to examine the evidence that is claimed, the evidence that is missing, and how vague anecdotes are often mistaken for proof.

      Over the course of thirteen episodes, we examine the origins of the myth, the figures who popularised it, the cultural references used as evidence, and the internal contradictions that cause the narrative to collapse under scrutiny.

      Some Dare Call It Conspiracy is an investigative podcast hosted by Brent Lee and Neil Sanders, examining conspiracy culture from the inside out using lived experience, research, and a distinctly British sense of humour.


      Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy--5932731/support.

      Some Dare Call It Conspiracy
      An investigative podcast hosted by Brent Lee and Neil Sanders.

      Website: https://www.somedarecallitconspiracy.com
      Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/somedarecallitconspiracy

      Twitter/X: https://x.com/somedarepodcast
      Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/somedarepodcast.bsky.social
      Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/somedarecallitconspiracy
      Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/somedarecallitconspiracy
      TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@somedarecallitconspiracy
      YouTube: https://youtube.com/@somedarecallitconspiracy

      Contact: somedarecallitconspiracy@gmail.com
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      58 min
    • Commentary • The Razzle Stack Part Deux (2/3)

      Commentary • The Razzle Stack Part Deux (2/3)
      Jan 23 2026
      Well, well, well, initiates... we know some of you are still hungry after binging all 13 parts of our Satanic Illuminati Music Industry series.. available now on Patreon! So we have cooked up a whole new dish for you.. The Razzle Stack: Part Deux, The Unrazzleingment. It's another three parter, continuing the dramas that unfolded in the first Razzle Stack. It's just another fabulous excuse to rip into Nick Fuentes, Tucker Carlson and the whole pile of c***s.

      Episodes will come out weekly.. this is episode 2/3 - Enjoy!

      By the way.. we have also relaunched our website. Please check it out, give it a share and recommend us to your friends and family!

      www.somedarecallitconspiracy.com

      Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy--5932731/support.

      Some Dare Call It Conspiracy
      An investigative podcast hosted by Brent Lee and Neil Sanders.

      Website: https://www.somedarecallitconspiracy.com
      Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/somedarecallitconspiracy

      Twitter/X: https://x.com/somedarepodcast
      Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/somedarepodcast.bsky.social
      Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/somedarecallitconspiracy
      Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/somedarecallitconspiracy
      TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@somedarecallitconspiracy
      YouTube: https://youtube.com/@somedarecallitconspiracy

      Contact: somedarecallitconspiracy@gmail.com
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      1 h et 50 min
    • 6/13 Satanic Illuminati Music Industry [Full Series On PATREON]

      6/13 Satanic Illuminati Music Industry [Full Series On PATREON]
      Jan 19 2026
      FULL SERIES AVAILABLE ON WWW.PATREON.COM/SOMEDARECALLITCONSPIRACY RIGHT NOW FOR MEMBERS OF OUR £5 AND £10 TIERS.

      Initiates, strap yourselves in because we are going down one hell of a rabbit hole.. we are finally diving into the "Satanic Illuminati Music Industry" conspiracy theory. Over the course of 13 episodes we will explore the full gamut of the Faustian Bargain-type mythos that your favourite musicians have allegedly entered with The Prince Of Darkness.

      Our springboard for this series is an interview on Ickonic entitled "Music Industry Rituals, MKULTRA & 27 Club Secrets" in which God's grandson, Gareth Icke interviews Coco Sianne Ryder - the daughter of Happy Monday's front man Shaun Ryder and Granddaughter of Folk legend Donovan. As per usual, these people provide no evidence or details of their claims.. so we figured we'd use this opportunity to examine and explore this subject from our unique perspectives as former conspiracy theorists and lay it all out for you.

      Topics include: Gareth Icke, Coco Ryder, The Happy Mondays, Donovan, Rick Rubin, System of a Down, The 27 club, The death of Kurt Cobain, The death of Brian Jones, Van Gogh, John Todd, Jack Chick, William Guy Carr, Fritz Springmeier, Robert Johnson, Faust and selling your soul, Tartini, Paganini, Jelly Roll Morton, Peetie Wheatstraw, John Lennon, Bob Dylan, Led Zeppelin, Aleister Crowley, Kenneth Anger, the curse of Led Zeppelin, The Illuminati in the music industry by Mark Dice, The 1991 meeting, Madonna, Britney Spears, Katy Perry, Ye, Drake, Jay Z, Beyonce, Lil Wayne, Professor Griff, Tupac, Talib Kweli, Prodigy, Malachi Z. York, Noreaga, Inspectah Deck, Rihanna, Nicki Minaj, Lady Gaga, Cathy O'Brien, Brice Taylor, Azaelia Banks, Kesha, The eye of providence, Satan and Heavy metal, Black Sabbath, Venom, Coven, Black Metal, Deicide, Shane Lynch, Ouija boards, The Rolling Stones, Mind control in pop music, The Beatles, Tavistock, Theodore Adorno, Foo Fighters, Ecstasy, John Potash, Dave McGowan, Courtney Love, The New York Dolls, The Heartbreakers, Laurel Canyon, Lookout Mountain film studio, Back Masking, Bono, Freemasons, The Krays, Cliff Richards, Elm House & Tony Blair.

      Enjoy!

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      58 min
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