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  • An Introduction to Season 4 - Nurture

    An Introduction to Season 4 - Nurture
    Oct 21 2026
    In our kickoff episode for Season 4, we explore the profound concept of nurture through personal stories, spiritual reflections, and community experiences. We recorded live at the Wild Goose Festival as we discussed how nurture manifests in nature, faith, community, and self-care, emphasizing its role in growth and wholeness.

    Key Topics
    • The significance of nature and water as symbols of nurture
    • Personal stories of nurturing from faith communities
    • The importance of vulnerability and community in growth
    • Reimagining nurture beyond comfort zones
    • The role of intentionality in self-care and collective healing
    Chapters
    00:10 Introduction to the theme of nurture at Wild Goose
    02:01 Connecting with nature through dew and water
    05:11 The spiritual significance of nurture and Howard Thurman
    09:39 Exploring collective nurturing and community support
    13:58 Nature as a space for spiritual reflection and healing
    18:55 What does it feel like to be truly nurtured?
    22:12 Breaking up the roots: Nurture as unfolding
    27:22 The role of faith communities in nurturing
    34:01 The importance of spaces like Lake Michigan and wild places
    37:33 Carrying the spirit of nurture into everyday life
    41:11 Closing thoughts: Moving out of the rut and into nurture
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    43 min
  • Special Episode with: Kelly Slaven, Jessica Brazeal, & Hillary Owen - Men and the Will to Change

    Special Episode with: Kelly Slaven, Jessica Brazeal, & Hillary Owen - Men and the Will to Change
    Oct 14 2026
    Friends, today our hearts are heavy as we sift through the news about the horrible violence against women and children that is committed every day in our country and around the world. We talk with our favorite mental health professionals - Kelly Slaven and Jessica Brazeal of The Haven Wellness Center in Dallas, TX and Hillary Owen of Driftwood Healing in Santa Rosa Beach, FL about the root causes of violence against women, what we need to heal collectively, and the harm that patriarchy inflicts on men, women, children, and our planet. As bell hooks says “Feminism makes it possible for men and women to know love.” We invite you to join us in this conversation today and to invest in a future rooted in matriarchy and care for all. Show Notes:Sarah Bareilles - hands off my bodyThe Haven Wellness Center in Dallas, TXDriftwood Healing in Santa Rosa Beach, FLbell hooks - The Will to Change: Men, Masculinity, and Love (email radicalsacredpod@gmail.com for a copy) Men who Hate Women by Laura BatesGloria SteinemI have Some Questions for You by Rebecca MakkaiTrauma and Recovery by Judith HermanEvery Man: Why Violence Against Women is a Men’s Issue, and How You Can Make a Difference by Jackson KatzChapters00:10 Introduction to the episode and guest contributions03:56 Grounding through connection and creative activities08:05 The patriarchy and bell hooks' perspective on love and maleness12:03 The social and cultural roots of violence and groupthink15:51 Parenting, modeling, and teaching consent and respect19:50 The importance of belonging, community, and positive reinforcement24:09 The socialization of children and the importance of role models27:55 Parenting, community, and creating spaces of belonging31:54 The importance of relationship, connection, and role modeling35:59 The impact of social movements like Me Too and political shifts38:03 The role of faith, religious institutions, and Christian nationalism40:04 Challenging harmful religious and societal narratives41:55 The importance of love, compassion, and reimagining God44:01 Practical steps for dismantling patriarchy and fostering love45:59 Resources and books for understanding and challenging patriarchy47:52 The power of relationship and community in social change49:49 The importance of intentionality and activism in everyday life51:56 Creating spaces of belonging and love for boys and men53:50 The role of women and marginalized groups in social transformation55:00 Closing thoughts and call to action for listeners
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    57 min
  • Doug Pagitt on July 4th, Patriotism, and the Common Good

    Doug Pagitt on July 4th, Patriotism, and the Common Good
    Jul 4 2026
    Are you also feeling complex feelings about America, our history of violence as a country, our current fascist leadership, and our fear and hope for what’s to come this 4th of July? Join us as we talk to author, activist, musician and founder of Vote Common Good Doug Paggit. Doug leads us through this honest conversation on working for change together, mourning all that’s been, and building an America we can all belong to.


    Show Notes:
    • Vote Common Good
    • Doug Pagitt
    • Esther’s Army - Katie Giddini
    • Let America be America by Langston Hughes
    • Documentary - Cross Country Bike Ride “Whose the We”
    Key Topics
    • Expansive view of Christianity and faith
    • The role of stories in shaping identity
    • Patriotism and its personal nature
    • The importance of community and inclusion
    • The intersection of faith and politics
    • Stories of connection across political divides
    • The history of America and its narratives
    • The work of Vote Common Good
    Chapters
    00:50 Exploring Identity and Belonging in America
    03:31 The Emergence of Progressive Christianity
    06:43 The Divine Dance: Understanding Community and Theology
    09:38 Navigating Political Identity and Faith
    12:45 The Role of Ancestors and Mentorship in Activism
    15:35 The Intersection of Faith and Politics
    18:36 Reimagining the American Narrative
    21:18 The Power of Storytelling in Social Change
    23:59 Building a More Inclusive Community
    26:40 The Journey of Vote Common Good
    29:46 Engaging in Meaningful Conversations
    32:44 The Importance of Listening and Understanding
    35:15 Finding Inspiration in Historical Movements
    38:11 The Collective We: Expanding Our Understanding of Community
    42:00 A Modern Good Samaritan Encounter
    45:23 The Dilemmas of American Identity
    48:26 Navigating Political Conversations in Faith Communities
    56:34 The Complexity of Patriotism
    01:01:34 Embracing Diversity in American Identity
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    1 h et 9 min
  • Season 3 Finale - Meandering and Meaning Making

    Season 3 Finale - Meandering and Meaning Making
    Jul 1 2026
    Thank you for joining us for our season 3 finale episode! We’ve had a lovely and winding 3rd season. We’ve chatted with authors, poets, scientists, naturalists, sex therapists, spiritual directors, artists and more to explore the true meaning of reciprocity. We end the season with reflection, presence, and connection. We invite you to join us over on Substack as we take a break from recording for the summer and to find us at Wild Goose Festival from September 4th-6th in Harmony North Carolina. We appreciate you dear listeners and will be back this fall with a new season, new stories, and new ways of exploring our sacred roots. It’s just the two of us here at Radical Sacred and it helps us out a lot when you rate and review the pod and share it with like minded folks!

    Show Notes:
    • Radical Sacred on Substack
    • Radical Sacred on Youtube
    • Radical Sacred on Instagram
    • Radical Sacred at Wild Goose
    • Radical Sacred Website
    • Radical Sacred Sounds of Summer Playlist
    • Our Lady of the Garden by Pádraig Ó Tuama
    Key Topics:
    • Reciprocity in nature and society
    • Systemic imbalance and economic exploitation
    • The role of creativity and community in social change
    • Environmental sustainability and water usage
    • The impact of wealth and inequality on society
    • Spiritual practices and inner reflection
    • The importance of vulnerability and honest community
    • Imagining a world beyond capitalism
    • The significance of joy and whimsy amidst chaos
    • The season's journey of inward and outward reflection
    Chapters
    00:50 The Poetic Reflection on Life's Journey
    01:56 Celebrating Season Three and Themes of Reciprocity
    04:09 Exploring the Concept of Reciprocity
    06:25 Reciprocity in Economic Systems and Social Services
    09:15 The Impact of Wealth Disparity and Extraction Economy
    10:59 Environmental Concerns and the Balance of Nature
    13:03 The Call for Action and Collective Responsibility
    15:13 Creativity and Individual Uniqueness in Challenging Times
    20:37 Finding Joy Amidst Imbalance and Struggles
    25:31 The Cycle of Life: Death and Renewal
    28:45 Imagining a Better Future Through Creativity
    33:26 Exploring Spirituality and Nature
    37:46 The Power of Community and Reciprocity
    41:06 Creative Collaboration and Vulnerability
    46:09 Reflections on Meaningful Conversations
    53:43 The Journey of Connection and Growth
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    58 min
  • Walking the Path of Creativity with (Creative) Kate Thomas

    Walking the Path of Creativity with (Creative) Kate Thomas
    Jun 24 2026
    We go on an imaginative journey with Kate Thomas, a UX strategist, visual designer, and artist who lets curiosity guide her work and her life's path. Kate’s way of being is rooted in her deep spirituality, love of nature, and enjoying the wonder of every day. What can we learn about ourselves and the holiness that calls to us when we take time to listen to the quiet still voice within and to follow the sound of our own genuine? We invite you into creativity, yearning, and honoring your sacred time and your sacred self in this lovely episode with the lovely Creative Kate.


    Show Notes:
    • Figma
    • Sabrina Ward Harrison
    • Art Farm in Annapolis
    • Creative Kate Website
    • @thiscreativekate : check out her pinned post about creating pockets of hope
    • Morning Poem by Mary Oliver
    • Wild Goose Festival
    Key Topics
    • Kate's journey from graphic design to UX and art coaching
    • The role of curiosity and play in creativity
    • Using art as a spiritual and self-discovery practice
    • The metaphor of compost and chaos in growth and renewal
    • The importance of boredom and silence in creativity
    • Connecting with nature and spiritual practices
    Chapters
    00:30 Morning Reflections: The Power of Poetry
    02:00 Introducing Kate Thomas: A Journey of Creativity
    08:45 The Role of Art in Childhood and Self-Discovery
    13:23 Curiosity as a Guiding Force
    20:22 Listening to the Sound of the Genuine
    22:30 Navigating Work-Life Balance and Creative Expression
    30:16 Faith and Upbringing: The Roots of Creativity
    34:56 The Importance of Boredom and Imagination
    43:39 Finding Beauty in Chaos: The Compost Metaphor
    49:13 Future Endeavors: Eco-Grief and Community Engagement
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    52 min
  • Rev. William H. Lamar on Ancestors, Stories, and Living Resurrection

    Rev. William H. Lamar on Ancestors, Stories, and Living Resurrection
    Jun 21 2026
    On this special Father’s Day episode of Radical Sacred we have the immense privilege of talking to Rev. William Lamar about his beautiful new book Ancestors: Those who Bless us, Curse us, and Hold us. Rev. Lamar talks to us about the importance of intimately knowing and calling upon our ancestors, the perfect memory that water holds, how to listen to the still small voice within us, and the importance of silence, nature, and music. Sitting with Bill for this episode was a profound blessing and we always leave our time with him awake, aware, and more alive. We invite you to check out this fabulous episode and dive deep into the ancestors inviting you back to your truest selves.


    Show Notes:
    • Ancestors: Those who Bless us, Curse us, and Hold us by William Lamar
    • Metropolitan African Methodist Episcopal Church in Washington, DC
    • I am my Ancestors’ by TaRessa Stovall
    • The DC Church that beat the Proud Boys in Court now Owns Their Name

    Key Topics
    • The biblical transfiguration story as a metaphor for ancestral engagement
    • Water as a symbol of perfect memory and spiritual renewal
    • The internal journey of self-discovery and internal cartography
    • The role of music and storytelling in connecting with ancestors
    • Resurrection as a cosmic and ecological process of renewal

    Chapters
    00:30 The Legacy of Ancestors
    02:56 Introduction to Reverend William H. Lamar IV
    05:41 The Importance of Ancestors in Faith
    07:29 Writing the Book: A Personal Journey
    11:19 The Transfiguration and Ancestral Connections
    16:00 Water as a Symbol of Memory
    22:18 The Role of Music in Spiritual Life
    28:05 Distraction and the Inner Music
    33:16 Finding Connection in Nature
    42:22 Bumping Into Oneself: The Inward Journey
    47:06 The Role of Ancestors in Our Lives
    54:56 Living Resurrection: A Poetic Invitation
    01:05:44 Father's Day Reflections and Ancestral Connections
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    1 h et 12 min
  • Mary Fontana on Strangers in the Province of Joy

    Mary Fontana on Strangers in the Province of Joy
    Jun 17 2026
    In this timely episode we visit with the author of Strangers in the Province of Joy: Practicing Radical Hospitality at the US-Mexico Border, Mary Fontana. While in college Mary began a 20+ year relationship with Annunciation House in El Paso which houses and provides care for migrants. This book is all about the important work of Annunciation House, its surprising and tender beginnings, and about the root causes that lead to people leaving their home countries. We talk about liberation theology, the United States complicity in the instability in Central America, and what we can all do to better love our neighbor as ourselves.


    Show Notes:
    • Strangers in the Province of Joy: Practicing Radical Hospitality at the US-Mexico Border
    • Mary Fontana’s Website
    • Annunciation House
    • A Prayer of Shelter and Shadow by Pádraig ó Tuama
    Key Topics:
    • The origins and history of Annunciation House
    • The concept of radical hospitality and its importance
    • Root causes of migration including US foreign policy and climate change
    • The role of personal relationships and presence in service work
    • The intersection of faith, justice, and activism in immigration
    • The ongoing legal challenges faced by organizations like Annunciation House
    • The importance of education and awareness in changing perceptions
    • The spiritual and contemplative practices that sustain service work
    Chapters
    00:30 A Prayer for Shelter and Community
    02:35 Introducing Mary Fontana and Her Work
    05:15 The Role of Annunciation House
    10:02 Understanding Borders: Geographic and Internal
    13:08 Migration as an Earth Right
    17:52 Root Causes of Migration
    22:07 Climate Change and Migration
    26:51 The Politics of Immigration and Othering
    31:39 Emergency Response and Human Connection
    34:17 The Founders' Wisdom and Open-Heartedness
    38:55 The Role of Contemplation in Service
    43:56 Balancing Presence and Productivity
    48:49 Justice and Mercy in Hospitality
    52:10 Spreading Awareness Through Storytelling
    54:15 Radical Hospitality Defined
    58:57 Facing Political Challenges with Resilience
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    1 h et 2 min
  • Encountering Henri Nouwen with Stephen Lazarus

    Encountering Henri Nouwen with Stephen Lazarus
    Jun 10 2026
    We enjoyed this fabulous conversation with Stephen Lazarus! Stephen is the Literary Manager for the Henri Nouwen Legacy Trust and the editor of Encountering Henri: The Living Legacy of Henri Nouwen. We visit about how earnestly and honestly Henri Nouwen lived his life and how impactful and invitational his way of being was. We invite you to live fully and in the spirit of Henri today and everyday! “It is by being awake to God in us that we can increasingly see God in the world around us.”
    Show Notes
    • Encountering Henri: The Living Legacy of Henri Nouwen
    • Cardus NexGen program
    • Henry Nouwen Legacy Trust
    • Comment Magazine
    • Robert and Margaret Jonas - Reviving Creation
    Substack
    • Check out Jenny's weekly reflection on the episode on our Substack.


    Key Topics
    • Henry Nowen's impact on spiritual life
    • The concept of woundedness and healing
    • Divine invitations and unexpected encounters
    • Henry Nowen's influence on peacemaking and justice
    • The importance of authentic identity in faith
    Chapters
    00:30 The Poetic Introduction to Love
    02:38 Introducing Stephen Lazarus and His Journey
    04:37 Encountering Henry Nowen: A Personal Connection
    08:06 Who Was Henry Nowen?
    10:04 The Humanity of Henry Nowen
    16:00 Divine Invitations Through Henry's Work
    20:47 The Communion of Saints and Connection to Ancestors
    24:13 Contemplating Memories of Henry
    28:47 Surprising Stories from the Book
    30:37 Embracing Our Imperfections
    34:25 Awakening to the Divine
    34:59 The Meandering Path to Home
    39:21 Engaging with the Common Good
    43:55 Wounded vs. Broken: A Theological Perspective
    49:03 Finding Identity in a Polarized World
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    56 min