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Radical Sacred

Radical Sacred

De : Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke
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Remember, you are on sacred ground. Stay rooted.

For two years Jenny Misslin and Rev. Phil Dieke have been contemplating a podcast. An opportunity to discuss spirituality, nature, community, and the interconnectedness of it all. All things they love, are very anxious about, and eager to explore.

Radical, defined as "the relating to the fundamental nature of something." This term can be divisive, but to Jenny and Phil it is an invitation to connect back to the divine goodness, the sacred, at the core of all creation.

Radical Sacred is an invitation to join them in curiosity as they explore questions such as:
  • What is an experience that led you to a kinder, more inclusive spirituality?
  • Who was the first person you met that broadened your ideas about the Divine?
  • Where do you experience the Holy?
  • If liberation of self leads us on a pathway to liberation for all, what has that looked like in your own spirituality?
  • How do you find joy and pleasure in these wild times?
  • Has there been an anchor for you as your spirituality has shifted?
  • How can the stories we tell ourselves harm or heal ourselves, and creation?
Not experts, Jenny and Phil strive to live the questions while exploring the mystery of all that is unsolved in our hearts and souls.

Will you join them?Copyright Phillip Dieke
Christianisme Ministère et évangélisme Spiritualité
Épisodes
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    Fabulous time today visiting with authors Adrienne Gibson and Scot McKnight on their new book Traumatized Church: What Paul's Relationship with the Corinthian Church Teaches Us About Helping Those Who are Hurting. Adrienne brings the perspective of a licensed therapist and Scot the knowledge of a New Testament scholar and together they have written a really hopeful and informative book on trauma, the church, Paul and the Corinthians, and on individual and collective healing. A must listen for anyone working in the church or who loves the church!

    Show Notes:
    • Paul and Thecla from 2nd century
    • Traumatized Church
    • Valor Counseling - Adrienne’s Practice in Mesa, Arizona
    • Scot Mcknight on Substack
    • Scot’s books
    Key Topics
    • Trauma in the church and its impact
    • Paul's vulnerability and trauma as a leader
    • Trauma-informed and trauma-sensitive church practices

    Chapters
    00:00 The Peace of Wild Things
    02:06 Introducing the Authors and Their Journey
    09:31 Understanding Trauma
    11:47 The Church as a Traumatic Space
    15:45 Becoming Trauma-Informed
    19:16 Transforming Pain: Insights from Paul and the Corinthians
    27:57 Understanding Paul's Humanity
    30:46 The Impact of Trauma on Leadership
    35:47 The Role of Pastors in Modern Churches
    41:34 Breaking the Cycle of Harm in Churches
    45:25 The Importance of Trauma Awareness in Ministry



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    52 min
  • Victoria Loorz and Valerie Luna Serrels on Sacred Conversations
    May 6 2026
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    Show Notes:
    • Margaret Wheatley - Using Emergence to Take Social Innovation to Scale
    • Dean Radin, PhD - IONS
    • The AI Doc: Or How I Became an Apocaloptimist
    • The Great AI Unraveling: Tristan Harris on Sounds of SAND
    • The Holy Wild Podcast
    • Wild Church Network
    • Wild Church Online
    • Why I Should Hike Every Day No Matter What by Rosemerry Wahtola Trommer
    Key Topics
    • The roots and growth of the Center for Wild Spirituality and Wild Church Network
    • The paradigm shift towards interconnectedness and emergence in spirituality
    • The biomimicry and feminist principles guiding wild church structures
    • The role of love, love as awareness, and sacred reciprocity in transformation
    • Science and spirituality: understanding the impact of consciousness on the physical world
    • The importance of community, unlearning, and vulnerability in spiritual evolution
    Chapters
    00:00 The Power of Nature and Freedom
    03:49 Introduction to the Wild Church Network
    06:54 Roots of the Center for Wild Spirituality
    09:42 Emergence and Community Building
    12:32 Biomimicry and Networking
    15:27 The Role of Feminine Leadership
    18:37 The Importance of Listening and Awareness
    21:25 Love and Change in the World
    24:11 Worldview Shift and Sacred Reciprocity
    27:24 Personal Journeys of Undoing
    30:06 The Journey of Trust and Passion
    36:42 Navigating Personal Struggles and Community Support
    39:07 The Journey of Acceptance and Grief
    43:45 Understanding Burnout and Resilience
    47:28 The Sacredness of Life's Challenges
    50:29 Awareness and Renewal in the Face of Grief
    54:51 Emerging Futures and the Balance of Hope and Grief
    58:47 Choosing Love Amidst Uncertainty




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    1 h et 4 min
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    Show Notes:
    • Substack - Liminality Journal
    • Everything is a Story
    • Kaitlin’s Instagram
    • Don’t Bother the Earth Spirit by: Joy Harjo

    Takeaways
    • Stories are time capsules that evolve with us, reflecting our growth.
    • Grief is a sacred space that, when embraced, can lead to profound healing.
    • Imagination is a vital tool for envisioning a better world and living beyond our limitations.
    • Connecting with ancestors and the earth provides guidance and strength.
    • Healing stories require patience, presence, and a willingness to face discomfort.
    Chapters
    00:00 The Power of Storytelling
    04:02 Childhood Narratives and Personal Growth
    12:20 Healing Through Reflection and Connection
    17:46 Catalysts for Change and Presence
    23:51 Collective Stories and Community Healing
    27:55 Healing Through Grief and Community
    31:18 The Role of Imagination in Writing
    36:07 Wisdom of Midlife Transitions
    41:47 Navigating Edges: Pleasure, Risk, and Pain
    47:35 Fear and Failure as Invitations
    50:27 Claiming Words as Medicine






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    57 min
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