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What if the most powerful change in mental health care happens in the space between two people—guided by skill, grounded in science, and held with genuine regard? That’s where we go with Dr. Sara Jones, a psychiatric mental health nurse practitioner, researcher, and clinic owner who builds care around psychotherapy as a core competency, not an optional extra.
We start with the spark: a seventh-grade encounter with Sybil that—despite later controversy—ignited a lifelong curiosity about how talk, relationship, and presence can heal. From there, Sarah maps an integrative practice: a strong CBT backbone for structure and measurable change; a Rogerian stance that makes hard work feel safe; and somatic-informed tools that honor how trauma lives in the body, especially for first responders. She shows how motivational interviewing, reframing, and brief behavioral strategies fit into short visits without pretending every session is a full protocol, and why even five minutes of focused psychotherapy can move ambivalence, build adherence, and restore hope.
We dig into system realities with candor. Large organizations often push PMHNPs into 15-minute med checks, citing cost and role stereotypes, while private practice offers flexibility to schedule 30–90 minute sessions and sustain therapy financially. We challenge myths about “therapy not paying” and spotlight the real barriers: mindset, training access, and a lack of preceptors who model integrated care. Sarah makes the case for a stronger pipeline—clear scope education, therapy-focused clinical hours, and continuing education that blends CBT, MI, and somatic skills into ethical, evidence-based practice.
Looking ahead, we talk standards and stewardship. The field thrives when programs invest in psychotherapy training and when clinicians demonstrate outcomes that matter: reduced crises, better engagement, and patients who feel truly cared for. If you’re a PMHNP, student, educator, or curious clinician, this conversation offers tools you can use tomorrow and a vision you can help build.
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Dr Dan Wesemann
Email: daniel-wesemann@uiowa.edu
Website: https://nursing.uiowa.edu/academics/dnp-programs/psych-mental-health-nurse-practitioner
LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-wesemann
Dr Kate Melino
Email: Katerina.Melino@ucsf.edu
Dr Sean Convoy
Email: sc585@duke.edu
Dr Kendra Delany
Email: Kendra@empowered-heart.com
Dr Melissa Chapman
Email: mchapman@pdastats.com