The formidable duo are back and celebrating! 5 years of motherhood.

In this episode:

Raising two completely different children—what works for one crashes and burns with the other. Parenting = constant humility.

A train journey that gave Tiffany perspective: seeing quiet teens reminded her this chaotic phase is fleeting (cue: gratitude mixed with exhaustion).

Living in the margins: building businesses, working on yourself, making coffee happen—all in the cracks.

Trench brain: accidentally stealing trolleys at Aldi, locking gym lockers without bags, and just trying to function.

Alex on reality vs. expectations: what she thought motherhood would be vs. what it actually is.

The 5-year immune system battle: one sickness bug to another. Surrender accepted.

For mothers 5 years in who are tired, grateful, and doing their best in the margins.

I sat opposite a dad with two teenagers on the train to London.

His kids: quiet, on phones, playing cards. Comfortable silence. Happy family.

Mine: singing, asking endless questions, needing me constantly.

I saw my future.

But it wasn't as simple as "that looks easier" or "I'll miss this chaos."

In this episode:

The perspective shift: seeing the future brings gratitude to the present—not pressure, not guilt, just perspective.

The parenting paradox: he probably looked at my chaos and wistfully remembered when his were little. I looked at his quiet teens and thought about the future. We're all in this weird middle—wanting what the other has.

Why glimpsing the future matters: it's a reset. A reminder that this phase is temporary. Every once in a while, that glimpse is helpful.

The parenting time warp: the days are long, the years are short. A single day can feel endless, but suddenly they're 10, 15.

Heather Black is the founder of Supermums—upskilling 1800+ women in tech.

But that's not where her story starts.

She built a Salesforce career while raising two daughters. Not as a backup plan. Not "just in case."

But because she refused the false choice:

You don't have to choose between being a devoted mother and having a career that's yours. You can build both.

And when life changed unexpectedly, that foundation—the one she'd been building all along—kept her standing.

In this episode:

How Heather strategically invested in herself—upskilling in Salesforce, then AI, never stopping.

Her mission: getting more women into tech and onto boards (why it matters).

Why career + motherhood strengthen each other, not compete.

Financial independence as wholeness, not backup plan.

Why building something that's yours isn't selfish—it's strategic.

Motherhood isn't the summit. It's base camp.

For mothers building foundations that honour ALL of who they are.