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Making Myth Podcast

Making Myth Podcast

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We’ve all heard the phrase “reality is stranger than fiction” but does the same thing apply when we look at the past? The Making Myth podcast hopes to untangle fact from history, myth, legend and speak to how we assign meaning to our lives.

Join us on the journey as we transcend through the past and emerge with new understandings.

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  • Episode 22: Charity Bryant & Sylvia Drake – An Early American Love Story

    Episode 22: Charity Bryant & Sylvia Drake – An Early American Love Story
    Jun 13 2026

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    On a cold February day in 1807, Charity Bryant and Sylvia Drake met for the first time. In era where women were expected to marry men and become mothers, they would spend the next 44 years building a life together in rural Vermont until Charity's death in 1851.

    As teaching opportunities for women expanded after the American Revolution, Charity and Sylvia embraced the independence those careers offered. Charity was subjected to fierce gossip because of her "mannish" appearance and intense romantic friendships with other women. When Sylvia moved in with her sister Polly in 1807, she was dodging questions about when she'd get married.

    Come along as we explore queer identity, romantic poetry, and gender roles in Early America through history and astrology to celebrate Pride!

    This episode contains discussion of sexual content.

    Sources

    Articles:

    • “About Charity and Sylvia (the people)” by Vermont Humanities (https://www.vermonthumanities.org/programs/book-a-program/vermont-reads/vermont-reads-2026/about-the-people/)
    • “Charity Bryant and the Queer Affordances of the Early American Acrostic” by Jennifer Putzi (https://www.jstor.org/stable/27235251)
    • “New roadside marker in Weybridge commemorates 1800s same-sex couple” by Mary Williams Engisch (https://www.vermontpublic.org/local-news/2025-06-20/roadside-marker-weybridge-commemorates-1800s-same-sex-couple)
    • “Read the Revolution: Charity and Sylvia” (https://www.amrevmuseum.org/read-the-revolution/charity-and-sylvia)

    Digital Media:

    • Charity and Sylvia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4nVNb0d-2Y)
    • Drawing on the Archive: Tillie Walden's Charity and Sylvia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqlfs3R2lbI)
    • 013: Rachel Hope Cleves, Charity & Sylvia: Same-Sex Marriage in Early America (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D82ogbip-Ac)
    • U6L3: Charity Bryant and Sylvia Drake (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6pt7fUyJWI)

    Books:

    • Charity and Sylvia: A Same-Sex Marriage in Early America by Rachel Hope Cleves

    Websites:

    • Charity Bryant (1777-1851) (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/112580287/charity-bryant)
    • Charity and Sylvia (https://www.charityandsylvia.com/)
    • “Charity and Sylvia: A Weybridge Couple” (https://www.henrysheldonmuseum.org/charity-and-sylvia)
    • Sylvia Drake (1784-1868) (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/112580393/sylvia-drake)

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    2 h et 17 min
  • Episode 21: Vitka Kempner: Forgotten Freedom Fighter

    Episode 21: Vitka Kempner: Forgotten Freedom Fighter
    May 30 2026
    Love what you hear? Send us fan mail!When the Nazis forcibly moved the Jewish population of Vilna, Lithuania to the ghetto, Vitka Kempner was ready. Born in Poland and always interested in education, Vitka fled her home town at 19 years old. In Vilna, she met two people who would accompany her through all the hard years ahead. Abba Kovner and Ruzka Korczack were more than just her partisans in arms, they were part of an inseparable trio.As part of the United Partisans Organization, she became a courier tasked with escorting Jews in and out of Vilna. To her, the greatest mission was getting everyone out of the ghetto before it was liquidated. Under enormous dangers posed by the Nazis, Vitka orchestrated sabotage missions resulting in blown up trains, power outages, and poisoned elite guards. She navigated immense risk with an ability to blend in like she naturally belonged there.Come along with us as we tell Vitka's story of resistance and bravery, life as a partisan, and life after World War II through history and astrology. Please practice self care when listening to this episode. SourcesArticles:Abba Kovner in Holocaust Encyclopedia (Holocaust Memorial Museum) (https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/abba-kovner#:~:text=In%201961%2C%20Kovner%20testified%20at,Abba%20Kovner%20died%20in%201987) Atkion 1005 by Shoah Resource Center (https://wwv.yadvashem.org/odot_pdf/Microsoft%20Word%20-%205721.pdf) Kalish, Kosminek and the Camps by Wolf Lassman (https://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/kalisz1/kal275.html) Ponary in Holocaust Encyclopedia (Holocaust Memorial Museum) (https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/gallery/ponary) Vitka Kovner, partisan, passes away at the age of 92 by The World Holocaust Remembrance Center (https://www.yadvashem.org/press-release/15-february-2012-16-41.html) Books: The Avengers: A Jewish War Story by Rich Cohen "Heroic Young Women" in Partizaner geyen by Shmerke Kaczerginski, translated by Lillian Leavitt (https://www.yiddishbookcenter.org/language-literature-culture/pakn-treger/2022-pakn-treger-digital-translation-issue/heroic-young) Digital Media:The Beginnings of Jewish Civilization in Poland and Lithuania (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdskbkLLdG4) Holocaust: The Revenge Plot (2018)The Rebel: Vitka Kempner (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-rebel-vitka-kempner/id1658561964?i=1000592001618) Primary Sources:Eichmann in Jerusalem by Hannah Arendt Nazis Complete Segregation of Jews in Vilna, October 12, 1941 (https://www.jta.org/archive/nazis-complete-segregation-of-jews-in-vilna) Oral History Interview with Vitka Kempner (https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn50190) Websites:History | Color Psychotherapy (https://www.colorpsychotherapy.com/history) Joining the FPO (https://www.facinghistory.org/resource-library/joining-fpo) Ponary | Holocaust Encyclopedia (https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/gallery/ponary) Ponary: Murder Site of the Jews of Vilna and the Surrounding Areas (https://www.yadvashem.org/vilna/during/german-occupation/ponary.html) Vitka Kempner’s Biography (https://www.facinghistory.org/resource-library/vitka-kempners-biography) Vitka Kempner | Jewish Partisans (https://www.jewishpartisans.org/partisans/vitka-kempner) Vitka Kempner-Kovner (https://jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/kempner-kovner-vitka) Support Us!Patreon: patreon.com/MakingMythPodcastKofi: https://ko-fi.com/makingmythpodcast
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    2 h et 42 min
  • Episode 20: Yuri Kochiyama: Taking the Lead

    Episode 20: Yuri Kochiyama: Taking the Lead
    May 15 2026

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    Forcibly removed to the Jerome War Relocation Center following the bombing of Pearl Harbor, Yuri Kochiyama was deeply involved in her community. During high school she volunteered and taught skills, all while seeing America through "American Eyes." She was Nisei, the first generation born to Japanese immigrants, and had citizenship while her parents could never obtain it. While assembling in Santa Anita, California, she assisted Japanese junior high girls in writing letters to some 1,300 Nisei service members.

    After the war, she moved to New York City after her husband was released from the Army. In 1951, she and her husband founded the Nisei Service Organization, leading to weekly open houses in their home. There she launched into activism, attending demonstrations for integrated schools and against US imperialism. In 1963, she met Malcom X and learned about the parallels of Asian and Black issues.

    In the 1980s, she helped earn redress for forcibly interned Japanese Americans. In 1988 the Civil Liberties Act authorized $20,000 in reparations to each internment camp survivor. By the end of her life, Yuri was nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize and was granted an honorary doctorate.

    Come along with us as we explore Yuri's enduring spirit, widespread activism, and legacy through history and astrology.

    Sources

    Articles:

    • “The Passionate Harlem Activist Yuri Kochiyama, New York, 1921-2004”
    • “Yuri Kochiyama, Activist and Former World War II Internee, Dies at 93” by Hansi Lo Wang
    • “Yuri Kochiyama: Timeline”
    • “Yuri, Tupac, and a Harlem House” by Taiyo Na

    Books:

    • Heartbeat of Struggle: The Revolutionary Life of Yuri Kochiyama by Diane C. Fujino
    • Infamy: The Shocking Story of Japanese American Internment During World War II by Richard Reeves
    • Passing It On: A Memoir by Yuri Kochiyama
    • Strangers From a Different Shore by Ronald Takaki

    Digital Media:

    • "Japanese Internment Camp Survivors Speak Out"
    • "The Revolutionary Impact of Yuri Kochiyama"
    • "Yuri & Bill Kochiyama: on the road in Mississippi"

    Primary Sources:

    • “Civil Rights Activist Yuri Kochiyama on Her Internment in a WWII Japanese American Detention Camp” by Democracy Now
    • Executive Order 9066
    • Japanese Relocation government film (1943)

    Websites:

    • Jerome - Densho
    • Jerome - Exploring America's Concentration Camps
    • Rising Above in Arkansas

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    1 h et 57 min
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