If you’ve ever returned from a trip feeling just as tired as when you left, this conversation may shift how you think about travel entirely. In this episode of M.E.S.H., Dr. Pamela Brewer speaks with Dr. Lisa Pittman—a licensed clinical psychologist, travel coach, and global citizen—about how travel can move beyond escape and become a meaningful tool for restoration, clarity, and self-connection. Drawing from both clinical insight and lived experience, Dr. Pittman invites us to reconsider what it means to truly “get away,” and how intentional travel can help us return more grounded, more aware, and more aligned with ourselves.

Together, they explore how travel can be reframed as an investment in mental, emotional, and social health—not just a break from responsibility, but an opportunity to better understand what we need and how we care for ourselves.

🌟 Topics Covered:

• What intentional travel really means
• Why vacations often fail to restore us
• Travel as a form of self-care and emotional renewal
• Solo travel, safety, and personal thresholds
• The rise of travel coaching and what it offers

Key takeaways

• What does self-care through travel actually look like?
• How do you define success for a trip before you take it?
• What makes travel feel meaningful rather than exhausting?
• Can travel with children still support rest and renewal?
• What is the difference between travel coaching and travel planning?

Learn more about our guest:

• Website: thetraveldoctallc.com
• Instagram: @thetraveldocta
• LinkedIn: Dr. Lisa Pittman

Resource List:

• Organizations mentioned
• Travel Coach Network

#MentalHealth #SelfCare #IntentionalLiving #TravelWellness #EmotionalHealth #SoloTravel #BurnoutRecovery #PersonalGrowth #MindfulTravel #MESHPodcast

In this episode of M.E.S.H., Dr. Pamela Brewer sits down with licensed marriage and family therapist Ibinye Osibodu-Onyali for a thoughtful conversation about trauma, high sensitivity, perfectionism, and a therapy approach many listeners may be hearing about for the first time: brainspotting. Together, they explore how painful experiences can shape the way we think, parent, cope, and move through the world—sometimes without us even realizing it. If you’ve ever wondered why certain patterns feel so hard to change, or whether healing has to involve retelling every painful detail, this episode offers a grounded, hopeful perspective on what healing can look like.

🌟 Topics Covered:

• What generational trauma means in everyday life
• How harmful patterns can feel normal
• What it means to be a highly sensitive person
• The connection between sensitivity, burnout, and guilt
• Why people-pleasing and perfectionism often go together
• How men may hide high sensitivity through anger or toughness
• What brainspotting is and how it works
• Why healing does not always require retelling every detail

Key takeaways:

• Some of the hardest patterns to change are the ones that feel most familiar
• High sensitivity is not weakness; it can be insight, empathy, and strength
• Perfectionism often grows out of survival, praise, and pressure
• Boundaries are not selfish; they are part of emotional health
• Healing can be gentle and still deeply effective
• Understanding your patterns creates more room for choice

Learn more about our guest:

• Website: thezinniapractice.com
• Social: @thezinniapractice
• Licensed to practice in Texas and California

#MentalHealth
#EmotionalHealth
#SocialHealth
#TraumaHealing
#Brainspotting
#GenerationalTrauma
#HighlySensitivePerson
#Perfectionism
#TherapyTools
#MESHPodcast

Dr. Pamela Brewer is joined by Dr. Iris Cardenas, Assistant Professor at the University of Maryland School of Social Work, for a thoughtful conversation on chronic stress and its impact on immigrant communities. Together, they explore how uncertainty, structural barriers, and lived experiences shape both mental and physical health. This episode of M.E.S.H. invites you to consider the weight of ongoing stress, the fact and power of resilience, community strength, and practical ways people navigate it every day.

🌟 Topics Covered:

• Chronic stress versus acute stress
• Structural barriers to healthcare access
• The role of discrimination in health outcomes
• Physical effects of long-term stress
• Intergenerational transmission of stress
• The weathering effect in marginalized communities
• Fear and uncertainty in daily life
• Community as a protective factor
• Informal versus formal support systems

Key takeaways:

• Chronic stress is not just emotional—it affects the entire body
• Structural inequities directly shape health outcomes
• Uncertainty can intensify both mental and physical strain
• Community connection can buffer the impact of stress
• Strength and resilience are often already present within communities

Learn more about our guest:

• Website: iriscardenas.com
• Affiliation: University of Maryland School of Social Work
• Center: Center for Behavioral Health and Well-being

#MentalHealth
#ChronicStress
#HealthEquity
#ImmigrantHealth
#SocialDeterminants
#EmotionalHealth
#PublicHealth
#CommunityCare
#MESHpodcast
#Psychotherapy

In this thoughtful and eye-opening conversation, Dr. Pamela Brewer speaks with educator and Muslims for Progressive Values board member Kendra Cordova about gender, identity, and the often-overlooked complexity within Islam. Together, they explore how cultural narratives, historical context, and lived experience intersect—challenging common assumptions while offering a more nuanced understanding of faith and belonging. If you’ve ever felt caught between identity and expectation, this episode offers both clarity and reassurance that you are not alone.

🌟 Topics Covered:

• Gender diversity within Islamic history and modern practice
• Misinterpretations of religious texts and cultural influence
• The role of education in shaping belief systems
• Non-binary identity and lived experience within faith
• Navigating family, community, and personal truth
• The importance of questioning and lifelong learning
• How organizations support inclusive interpretations of Islam

Key takeaways:

• Identity and faith can coexist, even when it feels complicated
• Knowledge creates confidence in navigating difficult conversations
• Cultural interpretations often shape belief more than original texts

Some questions I ask:

• What does gender diversity actually look like within Islam
• How have cultural interpretations shaped what people believe today
• How did your personal identity journey impact your relationships
• What do religious texts truly say about gender and sexuality
• Is there space for people with diverse identities within Islam
• What is the first step for someone questioning their place in faith
• How can people begin to explore long-held assumptions
• Where can listeners find supportive communities and information

Learn more about our guest:

• Website: mpvusa.org
• YouTube: MPV with Kendra
• Book: Homosexuality and Islam by Scott Siraj al-Haqq Kugle
• Organization: Muslims for Progressive Values

#MentalHealth
#SocialHealth
#EmotionalWellbeing
#IdentityMatters
#FaithAndIdentity
#InclusiveFaith

#SexualDiversity

#GenderDiversity
#Psychology
#SelfDiscovery
#HumanExperience
#MESHwithDrPamelaBrewer

Episode Summary:
In this deeply moving episode of M.E.S.H., host Pamela Brewer speaks with Doriel Jacov, a trauma-informed psychotherapist and former corporate attorney, about the realities and challenges faced by male survivors of sexual abuse. Doriel Jacov shares insights from his clinical work and his men's support group, exploring myths, shame, identity disruption, and the long journey toward healing. Listeners will gain compassionate understanding of the unique obstacles male survivors face, the importance of safe spaces, and how healing is possible even after traumatic childhood experiences.

Topics Covered:
Prevalence and invisibility of male sexual abuse
Social stigma and secrecy experienced by male survivors
The necessity and impact of specialized support groups for men
Effects of abuse on attachment, relationships, and identity
Disclosure dynamics within families and partnerships
Childhood abuse: confusion, self-blame, and socialized silence
The role of shame, embarrassment, and somatic disconnection
Paths to healing and the power of reparative relationships

Key Takeaways:
Sexual abuse of boys and men is much more common than many realize, affecting 1 in 6.
Secrecy and shame are central challenges preventing male survivors from seeking help.
Specialized support groups provide a crucial, safe environment for disclosure and healing.
Abuse can disrupt male identity, affecting emotional expression and relationships.
Healing is possible, though it requires time, safety, and investment in therapeutic relationships.
Naming and acknowledging shame is a powerful step toward freedom and recovery.

Best Quotes:
"In reality, 1 in 6 boys have had the experience of being sexually abused...men carry around this idea that what happened to them is extremely rare."
"Shame is a key threat in being a survivor, and to have other people who can be supportive...it can be profoundly transformative."
"Naming the felt shame actually unburdens them, can begin that process of being free of it."

Connect with Doriel Jacov:
Website: djpsychotherapy.com
Email: doriel@djpsychotherapy.com

#MaleSurvivors
#SexualAbuseAwareness
#TraumaHealing
#TherapyMatters
#MentalHealth
#SupportGroups
#EndTheStigma
#HealingJourney

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Episode Summary
In this compelling episode of M.E.S.H., Pamela Brewer sits down with Jelan Agnew, a licensed clinical social worker turned keynote speaker, coach, and global frolicker. Jelan Agnew opens up about her radical personal transformation after a crisis in 2020, culminating in a rebirth that fundamentally changed her priorities and definition of self. The conversation dives deep into embracing change, separating personal identity from achievement, overcoming generational trauma, and finding joy and creativity as essential parts of humanness. Listeners will walk away with inspiration, practical advice, and resources for their own journey toward personal and professional fulfillment.

Topics Covered
Definition and nature of transformation
Navigating major life changes and rock-bottom moments
The impact of burnout and alcohol addiction on mental health professionals
The process and aftermath of recovering from a life-threatening crisis
Releasing attachment to job titles for genuine self-discovery
Achieving separation between what you do and who you are
Generational trauma and its effects on achievement and self-worth
Productivity, self-talk, and worthiness, especially for Black and brown women
Creating a life aligned with creativity and joy
Advice for women facing barriers to transformation
How to start your own transformation without drastic life changes
Connecting with Jelan Agnew: social media, TEDx talk, and coaching

Key Takeaways
Change is inevitable; choosing to embrace it empowers you, rather than waiting until circumstances force you to adapt.
Generational trauma can shape the drive for excessive “productivity” — but finding self-worth apart from achievements is freeing and necessary.
You don’t have to quit everything to transform; start with small steps, reconnecting with what you love and how it makes you feel.

Six Best Quotes from Jelan Agnew
“First you get a little knock on the door, then you get a shake on your shoulders, then you get the rug pulled from under you. The choice is when you choose to change, because change is inevitable.”
“The version of me that built that life died in the ICU. I was reborn in the ICU, and the version of me that left didn’t have the same priorities, interests, or idea of success.”
“Separating what I do from who I am allowed me to start creating a life from who I am, not what I’m doing.”
“Remember yourself. And if you felt anything when I said ‘remember yourself,’ I’m talking to you.”

Connect with the Guest
Website: JelanAgnew.com
TEDx Talk: Check for Jelan Agnew's TEDx talk online
Coaching: Jelan Agnew is accepting coaching clients (DM via Instagram or LinkedIn)

Resources List
TEDx Talk: Jelan Agnew's TEDx presentation (search online)
NALEG of Self: Jelan Agnew's organization (name, website in process)
@nalejofself
Contact for coaching: DM Jelan Agnew via Instagram/LinkedIn

#Transformation
#MentalHealth
#GenerationalTrauma
#SelfDiscovery
#JoyIsHumanness
#WomenEmpowerment
#Podcast
#MeshPodcast
#Nalegofself

Episode Summary:
In this enlightening episode of M.E.S.H., host Pamela Brewer welcomes Heather Eshleman, Director of Operations at the Maryland Center of Excellence on Problem Gambling. Together, they dive into the often-overlooked risks of gambling, explore practical steps for recognizing and managing gambling disorder, and highlight resources available for individuals and families affected by problem gambling. Heather Eshleman discusses the Voluntary Exclusion Program, youth gaming risks, and the role of the Maryland Lottery in proactive gambling prevention. The conversation is packed with actionable advice, powerful anecdotes, and essential information to help listeners make healthy, informed choices about gambling.

Topics Covered:
Definition and prevalence of problem gambling
Warning signs and consequences of gambling disorder
The Voluntary Exclusion Program (VEP) in Maryland
Gambling risks among youth and features in video gaming (loot boxes)
Resources and tools for blocking gambling apps and sites
Support for family members of problem gamblers

Key Takeaways:
Not all gambling is problematic, but setting limits on time and money is crucial.
About 5.5% of residents are at risk for developing gambling problems.
The Voluntary Exclusion Program is a self-ban tool, covering casinos and sports betting apps.
Gambling disorders can affect both youth (through gaming) and adults.
Parents and family members have resources to block gambling apps and access support.

Best Quotes:
“So many people don't realize there are risks to gambling. You should set limits on time and money when gambling.” – Heather Eshleman
“If someone is having problems controlling their gambling behavior, they can ban themselves from different forms of gambling in the state.” – Heather Eshleman
“We know that people also have to deal with the underlying causes of why they are gambling out of control.” – Heather Eshleman
“There are gambling features within video games that can kind of catch you. You have to be careful with that.” – Heather Eshleman
“We do encourage parents to call us... 1-800-GAMBLER helpline operates 24 hours, 7 days a week.” – Heather Eshleman
“It's not cost prohibitive to seek problem gambling treatment and the family members too.” – Heather Eshleman

Connect with the Guest:
Maryland Center of Excellence on Problem Gambling: Website (website not explicitly given, based on organization name)
Contact Phone: 667-214-2120
1-800-GAMBLER helpline (call, text, or chat)

Voluntary Exclusion Program (Maryland Lottery): https://www.mdlottery.com (direct link not given, lottery website based on name)
Gamban (gambling block software): https://www.gamban.com
BetBlocker (free site blocking tool): https://www.betblocker.org
1-800-GAMBLER helpline: https://www.1800gambler.net
The Parents Place of Maryland: https://www.ppmd.org
Maryland Lottery Responsible Gaming: https://www.mdlottery.com/responsible-play/
Peer Recovery Support Specialists (Maryland Center of Excellence)

#ProblemGambling
#GamblingAwareness
#VoluntaryExclusionProgram
#Mdproblemgambling
#ResponsibleGaming
#MentalHealth
#FamilySupport
#YouthGaming
#MarylandLottery
#Meshwithdrpamelabrewer

Welcome to M.E.S.H.! In this episode, host Pamela Brewer sits down with Geoff Rogers, Director of Learning and Development Projects at the Silberman School of Social Work, Hunter College, to Uncover the essential strategies and challenges faced by Adult Protective Services (APS) practitioners. Discover what it takes to serve vulnerable adults, the realities of APS casework, and how engagement, myth, and storytelling impact social work. Whether you’re an aspiring social worker, a seasoned practitioner, or someone curious about social justice and community care, you’ll find deep insights and actionable advice here!

Topics Covered:
The role of storytelling and myth in helping workers support vulnerable adults
Skill sets and personality traits essential for APS practitioners
“Scaffolding” – what it means and why it matters in social services
Supervising and supporting new APS practitioners
Preserving autonomy and dignity for those served
The scope of APS (who qualifies, misconceptions about age)
Resources, guides, and training for practitioners

Key Takeaways:
Working in APS is demanding, complex, and deeply rewarding—a true calling that requires empathy, respect, and a non-judgmental stance.
Central to effective practice is seeing clients as people first and honoring their agency—making them “the hero of their own story.”
Adult Protective Services aren’t only for the elderly—in some states, services apply to all adults aged 18 and above.
Comprehensive training and accessible resources are available for practitioners, including specialized guides and podcasts.
Remembering the humanity of both the practitioner and the client is foundational to meaningful intervention and care.

Connect with the Guest:
Email: grogers@hunter.cuny.edu
Professional Affiliation: Silberman School of Social Work, Hunter College, New York City

Resources Mentioned:
Wellness at Work Podcast – Focusing on health and welfare for those serving vulnerable adults (search available platforms, as mentioned in episode)
Desk Guides/Frontline Service Guides:
Recognizing signs of physical abuse
Recognizing signs of financial exploitation
New York State-specific APS practice guide

#AdultProtectiveServices
#SocialWork
#VulnerableAdults
#TraumaInformedCare
#ElderAbusePrevention
#HumanizeSocialWork
#WellnessAtWork
#MESHpodcast