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Looks Good on Paper

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Looks Good on Paper flips hiring on its head. Hosted by Andrew Wood and Anita Chauhan, we dive into why CVs and "perfect fits" are overrated. Through fun, insightful conversations with industry experts, we explore how skills, potential, and real experience should be the focus of hiring... not what looks good on paper.

Quick, candid, and packed with actionable insights, we’re here to rewrite the rules of hiring, one episode at a time.


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  • Untrained Interviewers and the Culture Fit Myth, with Jay Guney

    Untrained Interviewers and the Culture Fit Myth, with Jay Guney
    Oct 7 2026
    Interviewer training, culture fit bias and hiring without a CV, with Jay Guney, founder and managing director of Dcoded.Most hiring processes put real effort into finding candidates and almost none into the person who interviews them. Jay Guney sees the result from the agency side every week. Many of the hiring managers his candidates meet have never had formal interview training. They are handed a candidate and asked to see if they're good, whatever that means for the role, and some walk out saying "thank God that's over, they seem like they can do the job." Sometimes it works out. It is rarely predictable, and candidates who gave up 30, 60 or 90 minutes often get no useful feedback in return.Jay has spent 13 years in UK recruitment. He founded Dcoded in May 2024 as a recruitment partner working exclusively in AI, data and engineering, building talent pools from chief data and AI leaders to ML engineers and data governance experts for SaaS, retail and consultancy businesses. Dcoded went for B Corp accreditation from day one, because Jay wanted to build an agency that challenges the stigma recruiters often carry.In this episode Jay unpacks the hidden bias inside "culture fit." Every client tells him candidates must fit the culture, yet three people in the same room will describe that culture three different ways, and without a definition it often slides into whether the hiring manager would enjoy a drink with the candidate on a Friday. He also explains why companies that ask candidates for their opinions often reject the ones who disagree, and why his own personality test results changed depending on whether he'd made a placement that day.On CVs, Jay describes placements where the client only ever saw a limited company name and a contract, and others made through blind candidate packs built from answers to questions agreed with the client in advance. As far as he knows, those hires are still in role. For his wildcard, he describes the AI tool he would give every hiring manager: one that plays two candidates, one you should hire and one you shouldn't, so interviewers can practise before they meet real people.What you'll learn → Why interviewer training is the most overlooked part of hiring → Why candidates deserve feedback after giving up their time → What "culture fit" really means, and how to stop it hiding bias → Why personality tests can mislead hiring decisions → How blind candidate packs can replace the CV → How AI could train hiring managers to interview betterLooks Good on Paper is hosted by Anita Chauhan and powered by Willo. Season 4 is about everything the document leaves out, on both sides of the hiring table.GUESTJay Guney, Founder and Managing Director, DcodedLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jayguney/ YOUR HOSTAnita Chauhan, Founder, InGoodCo.LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anitachauhan/LISTEN AND FOLLOWYouTube: https://youtu.be/w3L3LuFjasEApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/looks-good-on-paper/id1625835562 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0dbfz6y0tMq3crViHQD66H All episodes: looksgoodonpaper.willo.videoPOWERED BY WILLOhttps://www.willo.video/looks-good-on-paperCONNECT WITH USLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/10170893If this one hit home for someone on your hiring team, send it to them. Follow Looks Good on Paper wherever you listen so you get every Season 4 conversation.Looks Good on Paper is a podcast about hiring, hosted by Anita Chauhan and powered by Willo. In this episode, Jay Guney, founder and managing director of the AI, data and engineering recruitment partner Dcoded, explains why untrained interviewers are the biggest mistake in hiring, why "culture fit" hides bias when nobody defines it, and how blind candidate packs have led to placements without a CV. Season 4 asks what a CV leaves out, on both sides of the hiring table.Show ResourcesWillo: willo.video - The most cost-effective way to screen candidates at scale. Interview candidates anywhere & at any timeCV Free Toolkit: cvfree.me/join - Break up with the CV and get everything you need to modernize your hiring approach with skills-based assessmentsAnita Chauhan: linkedin.com/in/anitachauhan - Connect with the host
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    21 min
  • Hiring for potential, not perfection, with Daniel Hackett of Amazon

    Hiring for potential, not perfection, with Daniel Hackett of Amazon
    Sep 23 2026

    Military hiring, alternative talent pipelines and candidate-led recruitment, with Daniel Hackett of Amazon.

    Most hiring starts with the business. What does the team need, what skills are on the job description, what does the ideal candidate look like. Daniel Hackett thinks that is the biggest mistake companies keep making. As a military recruiter leading military and police hiring across Europe for Amazon, he works the other way round. His team talks to service leavers, veterans, reservists and military spouses first, finds out what they are good at and what they enjoy, and then finds the role in Amazon that fits. He describes the team as an internal agency whose real priority is the candidate, and he argues that what a hiring team says it wants is often not what it needs.

    That approach has a commercial logic he makes plainly. When a recruiter has spent hours with a candidate rather than ten minutes, the hiring team doesn't need ten rounds of interviews. It sees one or two prepared candidates, and one of them is likely to get the job, instead of the business spending hundreds of hours interviewing to hire one person. And the time invested in candidates who don't get the role is rarely wasted. Daniel has seen candidates come back six, twelve or eighteen months later and be hired.

    The hidden bias he names is against alternative backgrounds: military, police, fire and rescue, prison services, healthcare, former professional athletes. Hiring managers look at an infantry officer and struggle to picture them in operations, when planning, process, giving and receiving orders and leading people are their bread and butter. His instruction to hiring managers is to look for potential rather than perfection, because nobody arrives as a perfect Amazon candidate. The company-specific knowledge can be taught in the first six months. He also describes military spouses as one of the hardest pipelines, since they move every three to four years, and explains how Amazon can relocate them internally or make their role virtual.

    Asked what hiring without CVs would look like, he answers in one word: nirvana. Many of his candidates haven't interviewed in more than 30 years and have never needed to write a CV, which he says is not their fault. As a dyslexic thinker, he knows the problem personally. He can talk through his experience in an interview, but getting a great CV out of his head and onto paper is where he gets stuck, and a screening process that filters on that is not inclusive.

    For teams that feel they have exhausted their talent pool, his advice is practical. Go to the events where these communities are, message people on LinkedIn, and have twenty-minute conversations with someone in the fire service or the NHS even when you are not hiring. Amazon doesn't own this gold mine, he says. Anyone can open it.

    Looks Good on Paper is hosted by Anita Chauhan and powered by Willo. Season 4 is about everything the document leaves out, on both sides of the hiring table.

    Guest: Daniel Hackett, Military Recruiter, Amazon
    Host: Anita Chauhan, Founder, InGoodCo.
    Willo: https://www.willo.video/looks-good-on-paper

    Show Resources

    • Willo: willo.video - The most cost-effective way to screen candidates at scale. Interview candidates anywhere & at any time
    • CV Free Toolkit: cvfree.me/join - Break up with the CV and get everything you need to modernize your hiring approach with skills-based assessments
    • Anita Chauhan: linkedin.com/in/anitachauhan - Connect with the host
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    22 min
  • Why years of experience predicts almost nothing, with Heidi Wassini of Viebke & West

    Why years of experience predicts almost nothing, with Heidi Wassini of Viebke & West
    Sep 16 2026
    Skills-based hiring, ageism, and what the research says about years of experience, with Heidi Wassini, Chief People Officer at Viebke & West.Most hiring processes begin by screening on years of experience, and the evidence for that practice is close to nonexistent. A 2019 meta-analysis of more than 80 studies found the corrected correlation between prehire work experience and job performance is 0.06, which is where Heidi Wassini's comparison to horoscopes comes from, and she makes it without much patience for the alternative. She has removed the CV from hiring processes since 2012, long before unbiased recruitment became a topic in Denmark, and she is quietly amused that people have since been invited onto national television to talk about doing the same thing.Heidi came into talent acquisition from telco product management, which means she arrived thinking commercially about hiring before that was fashionable, and her working rule is that if she is not helping managers make money or save money she should not be in the room. She has led global talent acquisition and employer branding at Too Good To Go and Vivino, spent a decade at Ramboll, and runs Heartfelt.biz alongside her in-house role. She is an RL100 member, a Noon AI Talent 100 honouree, and is quoted in both of Katrina Collier's books.The bias she names is one very few people would guess at. We ask candidates to demonstrate motivation, in written applications and again in interviews, on the assumption that we can read it. A 2021 study from Utrecht University tested that assumption by comparing recruiter judgements of candidate motivation against candidates' own self-reported motivation and against an algorithmic assessment. The algorithm was the more accurate of the two, and the recruiters were not merely imprecise, their reads ran in the wrong direction, so candidates who were motivated were judged not to be and candidates who were not were judged to be. What recruiters were actually responding to was tone of voice, facial expression and other behavioural signals they trusted far more than the evidence supports. Heidi pairs this with the observation that the overwhelming majority of chief executives describe their decisions as intuition-led, and lets the listener draw the obvious conclusion about what that means at the top of an organisation.Her alternative is not theoretical. Hiring a recruiter onto her own team, she asked candidates to answer case-based questions with no names attached, then ran structured competency-based interviews through an avatar system that scored the answers alongside her own scoring. Five finalists came out of it and not one of them would have survived a CV screen. Three came from communications backgrounds with no recruitment experience, one from a public sector role she had privately written off as untransferable to tech, and one was a woman who had recruited in India and Canada and then spent three years in Denmark unable to get a job at all. Heidi hired two of them. The second is the best hire she has ever made, and on her first day, before formally starting, she sourced two candidates in three hours for a technical engineering role the team had failed to fill in six weeks. One of them was hired.The episode closes on something Heidi had not planned to say. She is 54. At fifty, her applications stopped converting entirely, including the referred ones, which she describes as a common experience among women in her network. So she took ten years of pre-HR experience off her CV, removed the dates from her education, added the ages of her twins, and the interviews resumed. When her real age surfaced in those interviews, the word that kept appearing was young. Young team, young energy. She builds her own GPTs, has a job-ad writing tool she developed herself, and tracks the frontier of talent technology more closely than most people half her age. Her closing line is the argument in miniature: you can be a very old thirty year old, and you can be a very young fifty year old.Looks Good on Paper is hosted by Anita Chauhan and powered by Willo. Season 4 is about everything the document leaves out, on both sides of the hiring table.Guest: Heidi Wassini, Chief People Officer, Viebke & West Host: Anita Chauhan, Founder, InGoodCo. Willo: https://www.willo.video/looks-good-on-paperShow ResourcesWillo: willo.video - The most cost-effective way to screen candidates at scale. Interview candidates anywhere & at any timeCV Free Toolkit: cvfree.me/join - Break up with the CV and get everything you need to modernize your hiring approach with skills-based assessmentsAnita Chauhan: linkedin.com/in/anitachauhan - Connect with the host
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    22 min
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