The United States is unique in how much attention it pays to its founding, its founders, and its founding documents. Arguably, the most famous and most important thing that Americans have ever written is the Declaration of Independence. In this fascinating and illuminating conversation, Kevin talks to Matthew Spalding, of Hillsdale’s D.C. campus, about his new book The Making of the American Mind: The Story of our Declaration of Independence. In particular, they explore the theology and the Declaration and the essential role that the Christian tradition played in the founding and in the Declaration. Was America founded as a Christian nation? Listen all the way to the end to hear Dr. Spalding careful and nuanced answer to that question.

In this timely interview, Kevin talks to Neil Shenvi about his new book (co-authored with Pat Sawyer), entitled “Post Woke: Asserting a Biblical Vision of Race, Gender, and Sexuality” (Harvest). What does it mean to be woke, and is wokeness still a thing Christians need to be concerned about? Where did the idea of wokeness come from? How can we spot woke ideas and respond to them with biblical fidelity? Can wokeness exist on the right as well as the left? Join Kevin and Neil as they explore why wokeness is as relevant as ever and how Christians, in the most contested issues of our day, can be shaped by the Bible instead of the world.

If you are looking for a podcast where three friends talk about whatever they want to talk about and ramble on about sports, books, and grievances, then this is the episode for you! It’s also an opportunity to hear the three amigos laugh, tell funny stories, and end with a reflection on the many simple gifts and graces in their lives.