🎧 Leadership Rules with Jeff Utecht
Title: AI Can Predict. Humans Must Decide.

AI is moving fast. But are we moving thoughtfully?

In this episode of Leadership Rules, Nick and Marnie sit down with Jeff Utecht, educator, speaker, and author of Human Still Required, to explore what leadership looks like in a world increasingly shaped by artificial intelligence.

Jeff brings a powerful reminder: the real risk is not that AI replaces us. It’s that we stop thinking for ourselves.

In this conversation, we explore:

• Why “cognitive surrender” is a growing concern in the age of AI
• The difference between prediction and true understanding
• Why judgment is the one skill AI cannot replace
• How leaders should rethink effort, productivity, and performance
• What it means to lead through a double transition in the workplace

Jeff also shares why listening may be the most underrated leadership skill right now—and how staying curious is the key to navigating rapid change.

If you care about leadership, education, or staying human in a tech-driven world, this episode will challenge how you think about both AI and your role in it.

📍 Learn more and connect with Jeff Utecht
Website → https://jeffutecht.com

Book → https://humanstillrequired.com

Podcast → Shifting Schools

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🎧 Leadership Rules with Matt Miller
Title: Keep the Main Thing the Main Thing

AI is everywhere. So what actually matters now?

In this episode of Leadership Rules, Nick and Marnie sit down with Matt Miller, educator, author of AI Literacy in Any Class, and creator of the Ditch That Textbook movement, to talk about how teaching and leadership are evolving in an AI saturated world.

Matt challenges the idea that we need more tools and instead focuses on something more important.

Better thinking.

In this conversation, we explore:

• Why “ditch the textbook” is really about ditching passive learning
• How AI literacy shows up in everyday classroom moments
• Why students don’t need to master the tech, but must learn to question it
• The risk of going all in or all out on technology
• Why critical thinking, discernment, and creativity matter more than ever

Matt also shares practical ways to bring AI into the classroom without losing the human element, including how to use imperfect AI outputs to spark deeper thinking and discussion.

If you care about education, leadership, or preparing students for a future we cannot fully predict, this episode will reshape how you think about both technology and teaching.

📍 Learn more and connect with Matt Miller
Newsletter → https://ditch.link/join

Book → AI Literacy in Any Class available on Amazon

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🎧 Leadership Rules with Scott Martin
Title: Success Isn’t the Goal. Flourishing Is.

What if the goal of school wasn’t just success… but flourishing?

In this episode of Leadership Rules, Nick and Marnie sit down with Dr. Scott Martin, Executive Director of the Odyssey Leadership Academy, to talk about how leadership can create environments where both students and educators truly thrive.

Scott believes that leadership is both art and science, and that great leaders carry a deep responsibility to care for the people in their community. He also challenges many traditional assumptions about school, including grades, agency, and what real learning looks like.

In this conversation, we explore:

• The difference between leadership and management
• Why the leader sets the “nervous system” of an organization
• How flourishing can become a school’s North Star
• What happens when students are given real agency in their learning
• Why resilience grows when students create learning instead of just consuming it

Scott also shares how Odyssey Leadership Academy empowers students to design projects, teach classes, and even build real-world solutions like a student-built tiny home.

If you care about leadership, education, and building cultures where people thrive, this episode will challenge the way you think about success.

📍 Learn more about Odyssey Leadership Academy
https://OdysseyLeadershipAcademy.org

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