Most people lose deals because they never uncover the real problem. They sell to the surface, pitch too early, and wonder why prospects ghost them. This episode breaks down why the person who finds the emotional driver behind every decision wins the deal, the relationship, and the long game. Pace Morby is the host of A&E's Triple Digit Flip, and has built a $450M+ real estate portfolio using creative financing .

In this conversation with Jeremy Miner, Pace reveals the framework that won his first deal against 15 competitors, why he intentionally chases rejection before expecting a yes, and how building a community of committed people replaced information as his real growth engine. He also breaks down the mindset shift that took him from general contractor to running 20+ companies: operating from fear of wasted potential, not motivation. This one is for salespeople, entrepreneurs, and anyone stuck confusing preparation with progress.

Chapters:

(00:00) Introduction

(06:15) Find the Bunnies

(12:30) Failing With Velocity

(18:45) Why Impatience Kills Progress

(24:30) Community Over Information

(30:15) The Fear That Drives Everything

(36:00) What Grit Actually Looks Like

(42:00) Work Life Balance Is a Lie

(48:15) Selling to the Real Problem

(53:30) One Skill That Changed Everything

Pace says if information made people rich ChatGPT would have done it. Drop a comment: what did the people around you change the most?

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