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Going Beyond the Deal

Going Beyond the Deal

De : J. Michael Fischer Jr | DBD Investment Bank
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Welcome to Going Beyond The Deal. The show for founders, business owners, and professionals who want to grow smarter, achieve bigger exits, and build a legacy that lasts. Your host is no other than, J. Michael Fischer Jr – connector, life-long student of personal growth, and Managing Director at DBD – a bespoke investment bank that helps businesses handle big financial moves. Each week, we look beyond the numbers and the deals to talk about what really drives success. You'll hear from entrepreneurs, strategists, and top performers about the mindset, habits, and decisions that help businesses — and people — keep moving forward. If you're getting ready to sell, raise capital, or just level up — you're in the right place.Copyright © 2025 DBD Partners LLC Direction Economie Finances privées Management Management et direction
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  • 39 | What Really Happens When You Sell Alone
    Apr 21 2026

    What if the biggest financial decision of your life is the one you’re least prepared for?

    In this solo episode, J. Michael Fisher Jr., Managing Director at DBD Investment Bank, breaks down the reality most founders never see when selling their business. This is not just a transaction, it is a high-stakes negotiation against professionals who do deals every day. And if you are unprepared, the cost is permanent.

    Michael exposes the hidden risks, from undervalued offers and deal fatigue to broken cultures and lost wealth during diligence. He also reveals why the right advisor is not just a banker, but a process architect who creates leverage, competition, and clarity.

    Listen now to avoid costly, irreversible mistakes, gain insider-level deal awareness, and access the exact perspective most founders never get until it’s too late.

    Timestamped Highlights

    [00:00] – The uncomfortable truth, you are not just selling a business, you are negotiating your life’s work

    [01:15] – Why success on paper hides a dangerous reality about your wealth

    [02:25] – The silent trap of accepting the “market value” without real competition

    [03:32] – Deal fatigue, how exhaustion quietly forces founders into bad terms

    [04:30] – The real role of an advisor, process architect, quarterback, and emotional buffer

    [05:35] – How elite advisors compress years of mistakes into months of leverage

    [07:13] – Why diligence destroys deals, and how value slowly disappears

    [10:05] – The biggest myth about fees, and the real risk founders ignore

    Important Links
    • Feel Fully Alive: The 5 Dimensions of Vitality gives you the framework to thrive. Get your copy here.
    • Stay Ahead in Business: Michael shares strategies to boost your financial decisions. Read his latest blog.
    • Grow Your Wealth: Book a call with DBD Investment Bank

    Going Beyond the Deal is an original podcast brought to you by J. Michael Fischer Jr. Production and editing by Podcast Your Brand.

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    10 min
  • 38 | Don't lose your leverage
    Mar 31 2026

    Are you secretly worried your next big business move might happen to you instead of because of you?

    J. Michael Fischer Jr. breaks the silence on a painful reality facing founders and CEOs who wait too long to plan their exit. In this solo episode of Going Beyond the Deal, he reveals why most business owners lose their best negotiating tool—leverage—and how to reclaim it before it’s too late. He explains why high revenue is not enough, how “strategic patience” can mask costly avoidance, and what true readiness looks like when it comes to growth, diligence, and market timing.

    If you’re tired of the myth that great businesses automatically get great deals, this conversation is your wake-up call. The longer you wait, the less power you have and the cost can be everything you’ve worked for. Don’t gamble with your business legacy. Listen now for strategies proven to protect your options and your outcome, with insights you won’t hear anywhere else.

    Timestamped Highlights
    • 00:00 – The Founder’s Trap: Why the first signal you’re ready to sell means you’re already late
    • 00:46 – Leverage Lost: The emotional (and financial) price of reacting instead of driving the exit process
    • 02:34 – The Quiet Shift: How founders mistake performance for strategy and what they miss
    • 05:07 – Strategic Patience or Avoidance? The business-language lie that keeps smart people stuck
    • 08:00 – Growth vs. Readiness: The dangerous myth that high revenue means a great outcome
    • 09:40 – Momentum Isn’t Control: The wake-up call that hits too late for unprepared founders
    • 12:32 – The One-Buyer Nightmare: When negotiation power vanishes and the price gets retraded
    • 15:21 – How Real Founders Win: Optionality, multiple paths, and strategic choices that protect your legacy

    Important Links
    • Feel Fully Alive: The 5 Dimensions of Vitality gives you the framework to thrive. Get your copy here.
    • Stay Ahead in Business: Michael shares strategies to boost your financial decisions. Read his latest blog.
    • Grow Your Wealth: Book a call with DBD Investment Bank

    Going Beyond the Deal is an original podcast brought to you by J. Michael Fischer Jr. Production and editing by Podcast Your Brand.

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    13 min
  • 37 | John Sutton – How Wine Got Too Expensive (And Can It Come Back?)
    Mar 24 2026
    Are you struggling with stagnation, searching for an edge that lasts beyond the next big deal?This week, J. Michael Fisher Jr. sits down with John Sutton, CEO of The Wine Group, for an unfiltered look into one of America’s largest wine companies and the unexpected journey from White House staffer to industry leader. They explore how brands survive disruption, the critical lessons behind world-famous labels, and why kindness and guts are the hidden accelerators for career and business breakthroughs.If you’ve ever doubted your trajectory or wondered what it really takes to build scale and resilience, don’t miss this episode. The old playbook is broken. Discover the proven, exclusive strategies that help leaders avoid decline and ignite next-level growth now.Timestamped Highlights01:38 – How a law career, White House experience, and a single cold call changed everything04:26 – What happens when you get a front-row seat to history and the grit it takes to succeed06:27 – The unforgettable advice: “Be nice to everybody on the way up…”13:10 – The guts behind reaching out and landing a dream role at The Wine Group15:41 – The industry’s shocking truth: Why wine lost its “on-ramp” to the younger consumer18:31 – New marketing secrets: Turning a $15 bottle into a lifestyle and why the old story fails22:42 – How packaging, high-alcohol trends, and Gen Z preferences are rewriting the playbook26:30 – Spain’s curbside cafés, the power of $4 wine, and what American culture’s missing41:39 – Why being management-owned is a game-changer and the hidden risks facing public companiesMentioned ResourcesFranziaBenzigerGlen EllenConcannonDiageoLeon PanettaClinton White HouseBuzzballsChloePaso RoblesAbout the GuestJohn Sutton is the CEO of The Wine Group, a powerhouse in the wine industry, overseeing iconic brands like Franzia, Cupcake, and Benziger. With a uniquely varied background in law, government, and White House service, Sutton has led the business through strategic acquisitions, innovation, and the transformation of generational consumer habits. His blend of operational excellence and authentic leadership makes him an industry standout, teaching founders and executives how to thrive in turbulent markets.🔗 LinkedIn | WebsiteImportant LinksFeel Fully Alive: The 5 Dimensions of Vitality gives you the framework to thrive. Get your copy here.Stay Ahead in Business: Michael shares strategies to boost your financial decisions. Read his latest blog.Grow Your Wealth: Book a call with DBD Investment BankGoing Beyond the Deal is an original podcast brought to you by J. Michael Fischer Jr. Production and editing by Podcast Your Brand.
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    47 min
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