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  • Episode 60 - Getting to Know Shadow Work with Jor-El Caraballo
    Feb 20 2026

    Host Natasha Levinger and her co-host/husband/producer, Brett are delighted to talk with Jor-El Caraballo, licensed therapist, author, and creator of the new deck, Shadow Work for Self-Reflection.

    In this episode, they discuss:

    • Should Brett & Natasha start doing a relationship segment?
    • Someone telling you their IQ is a red flag for Brett
    • Jor-El's history and work as a licensed therapist
    • Beginning to encounter shadow with clients before having the vocabulary
    • Carl Jung got more esoteric and metaphysical as he aged and diverged from mainstream psychology
    • An admiration for Jung's commitment to staying open and expanding throughout his life
    • Blending any and every approach to healing that works for you
    • Shadow work is the process of exploring and being curious about the wizard behind the curtain in your own psyche
    • The importance of non-judgemental curiosity and compassion when approaching shadow work
    • The benefits that come from shadow work
    • How shadow work for yourself benefits the community at large
    • It can be really scary to meet yourself
    • The ways in which shadow can be wielded against others when we don't try to learn about it
    • Shadow work can feel lonely, but there is always someone else out there who deals with the same kind of shadow
    • The things we are afraid of often hold parts of our power
    • Struggling with being an atypical boy growing up
    • Golden Shadow: positive traits that you learn to shun
    • The power of emotional sensitivity
    • How embracing your shadow can enable others to embark on their own journey
    • The ways that shadow can disguise itself from you as "just the way you are"
    • The practice of naming and speaking to your inner critic to give yourself emotional distance
    • Shadow work is never the pandora's box we fear it might be
    • Brett wishes he could trick people into doing shadow work, but Jor-El advises against it
    • Jor-El's recommendation for how to work with his deck: SLOW DOWN!
    • Hopper from Stranger Things could use some serious shadow work
    • Card pull for the week ahead
    • And more!

    Plus...

    • Sign up for Natasha's substack, Coming Home! Paid subscribers get lots of extra content, including monthly live calls!
    • Get Natasha's book Healing Your Inner Child in paperback or audiobook today.
    • Individual readings are available. Learn more or book one here
    • Don't forget to rate/review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and tell your friends about us
    • Send questions, show topic suggestions, or to gettingtoknowwoo@gmail.com

    Jor-EL Carballo's info:

    • Substack (Coffee & Contemplation): https://jorelcaraballo.substack.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jorelcaraballo/ Deck: Shadow Work for Self-Reflection Book: Mindful Meditations for Black Men Website: jorelcaraballo.com

    Getting to Know Woo is a podcast dedicated to dispelling the rhetoric that so-called "woo-woo" practices such as energy work, energy healing, inner child healing, chakra clearing, and more are impractical and ineffective, and instead are pragmatic, transformative, and powerful.

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    1 h et 1 min
  • Episode 59 - Getting to Know Microdosing with Kayse Gehret
    Feb 11 2026

    Host Natasha Levinger and her co-host/husband/producer, Brett are excited to talk with Microdosing Facilitator Kayse Gehret.

    In this episode, they discuss:

    • How Mark Slaughter features in the Sliding Doors version of Natasha's life
    • The unbelievable true story of Natasha and the belching massage therapist
    • Kayse is the least likely person to work with magic mushrooms
    • She avoided all kinds of mind-altering substances due to gran mal seizure disorder
    • Microdosing healed Kayse's seizures, but also brought a host of other benefits
    • She started a microdosing community during Covid
    • That community effort has grown to include a podcast, a website, and training others
    • to do the work of guiding people through microdosing
    • The different medicines that can be used for microdosing
    • Microdosing is a sub-threshold dose, which means you don't feel altered.
    • It allows you to get the benefits of these medicines in a bite-sized way that is easier to incorporate into your day-to-day life
    • Microdosing is a different experience for everyone
    • How to make sure you're getting the dose you expect
    • How Kayse guides people remotely
    • The gift of everyone going online during the pandemic was being able to spread communities around the globe
    • Some popular misconceptions about these medicines
    • These medicines should not be called "drugs"
    • Are there specific medicines for specific conditions?
    • The power of restful sleep for a regulated central nervous system
    • How modern society contributes to nervous system overload
    • The surprising overlap of microdosing guides with corporate HR
    • The spiritual side of microdosing for Kayse
    • How plant medicine quiets the "me" part of our brains
    • Common misconceptions about microdosing
    • What if microdosing doesn't seem to work?
    • Community is an important part of the microdosing work
    • And more!

    Plus...

    • Sign up for Natasha's substack, Coming Home! Paid subscribers get lots of extra content, including monthly live calls!
    • Get Natasha's book Healing Your Inner Child in paperback or audiobook today.
    • Individual readings are available. Learn more or book one here
    • Don't forget to rate/review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and tell your friends about us
    • Send questions, show topic suggestions, or to gettingtoknowwoo@gmail.com

    Kayse Gehret's info:

    • Website: https://www.microdosingforhealing.com
    • Microdosing for Healing podcast

    Getting to Know Woo is a podcast dedicated to dispelling the rhetoric that so-called "woo-woo" practices such as energy work, energy healing, inner child healing, chakra clearing, and more are impractical and ineffective, and instead are pragmatic, transformative, and powerful.

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    1 h et 21 min
  • Episode 58 - Getting to Know the I Ching with Jonathan Koe
    Jan 22 2026

    Host Natasha Levinger and her co-host/husband/producer, Brett are excited to welcome back queer mystic, astrologer, energy healer, Jonathan Koe, to talk about The I Ching.

    In this episode, they discuss:

    • We're back! Is there anybody still here?
    • Natasha has loved the I Ching since she was a teenager
    • Jonathan started their practice a few years ago after a very powerful reading
    • The gates in Human Design are inspired by the I Ching
    • A variety of ways to approach the I Ching
    • Because the I Ching is essentially bibliomancy, it makes itself very accessible
    • Allowing your own knowing to come into your work with the I Ching
    • When looking for "signs" is a desire to connect with the universe, and when it's a
    • subordination of self
    • Investigating your biases before you formulate your question for the I Ching
    • The intelligence of the built-in slowness of querying the I Ching
    • The best emotional place to begin casting from
    • How the I Ching can connect you to your own power
    • Approaching your time with the I Ching like being with a master or a teacher
    • Connection to the divine through the I Ching
    • A brief overview of the structure of the I Ching
    • The I Ching is known as The Book of Change
    • Natasha and Jonathan both find the I Ching very soothing, but also bossy
    • The effect of the translator on English version of the I Ching
    • Ending with a card reading for the week ahead
    • And more!

    Plus...

    • Sign up for Natasha's substack, Coming Home! Paid subscribers get lots of extra content, including monthly live calls!
    • Get Natasha's book Healing Your Inner Child in paperback or audiobook today.
    • Individual readings are available. Learn more or book one here
    • Don't forget to rate/review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and tell your friends about us
    • Send questions, show topic suggestions, or to gettingtoknowwoo@gmail.com

    Jonathan Koe's info:

    • Healing the Spirit podcast
    • Jonathan's substack for Healing the Spirit
    • Jonathan's website: https://www.jonathankoe.com

    Getting to Know Woo is a podcast dedicated to dispelling the rhetoric that so-called "woo-woo" practices such as energy work, energy healing, inner child healing, chakra clearing, and more are impractical and ineffective, and instead are pragmatic, transformative, and powerful.

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    56 min
  • Episode 57 - Getting to Know a New Human Design Paradigm with Katie Rose
    Jun 13 2025

    Host Natasha Levinger and her co-host/husband/producer, Brett eagerly welcome intuitive coach Katie Rose to the show to talk about what Human Design has to say about an upcoming paradigm shift called The Cross of the Sleeping Phoenix.

    In this episode, they discuss:

    • Thoughts on how cultural evolution is supplanting genetic evolution in humans for emotional and physical growth
    • Everyone is needed in the fight
    • This is the time for allies to be showing up, everywhere
    • Pulling oracle cards for the energy of the next two weeks
    • Recalling Katie's last interview
    • The new paradigm arriving in 2027, according to Human Design
    • The previous paradigm allowed for setting up infrastructure and rigidity
    • The new paradigm (The Cross of the Sleeping Phoenix) allows for gray area, complexity
    • The new paradigm grounds in authenticity and community
    • Not neglecting yourself in the caring of each other
    • How energy healing helps to tell all the parts of yourself when you've changed and grown
    • The importance of dealing with both emotional and intellectual understanding in your healing
    • Brett forgets that podcasts are an auditory medium
    • The advantages of energy work when compared to traditional therapy
    • The hope that traditional therapy will also get a software update
    • Building compassion for yourself allows you to build it for others
    • It's normal to not heal in a "straight line"
    • It is detrimental when we are dogmatic about the supremacy of any single system/philosophy/idea
    • How the human brain views familiarity as safety, even when it is not actually safe
    • But the brain can be re-educated
    • What happened for Katie when a long-healed pattern cropped up again unexpectedly
    • Approaching our own "negative" reactions with curiosity instead of judgement
    • How curiosity can be enough while you are still learning to apply self-compassion
    • Being triggered doesn't mean you're not growing
    • How healing can be like turning on the light in a chaotic room
    • And more!

    Plus...

    • Natasha is starting a small-group psychic skills mentorship. Learn more at natashalevinger.com
    • Learn more about about Pattern Shifting, Natasha's new two-session mini-mentorship
    • Get Natasha's book Healing Your Inner Child in paperback or audiobook today.
    • Individual readings are available. Learn more or book one here
    • Don't forget to rate/review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and tell your friends about us
    • Send questions, show topic suggestions, or to gettingtoknowwoo@gmail.com

    Katie Rose's info:

    • Katie's workshop on June 20: Summer SOULstice. Learn more or register here.
    • Katie's website: https://www.katierosecoaching.com
    • Katie's Instagram: @helloimkatierose
    • The Trauma to Transformation Podcast

    Getting to Know Woo is a bi-weekly podcast dedicated to dispelling the rhetoric that so-called "woo-woo" practices such as energy work, energy healing, inner child healing, chakra clearing, and more are impractical and ineffective, and instead are pragmatic, transformative, and powerful.

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    53 min
  • Episode 56 - Getting to Know Sacred Plant Magic with Amy Blackthorn
    May 21 2025

    Host Natasha Levinger and her co-host/husband/producer, Brett talk with Amy Blackthorn, author of Sacred Plant Magic.

    In this episode:

    • Nataha loooooved Gracie Allen
    • Our oldest graduated high school!
    • Healing = timeline collapsing
    • Breck is a terrible name for a shampoo
    • Brett has some healing around conflict
    • Reprogramming trauma through scents
    • How to customize your own therapeutic scents
    • Working with the spirit of plants, even if you don't have the plants
    • Learning to communicate with plants
    • Scent has a totally separate pathway from speech in your brain from other senses.
    • And music has a separate pathway from speech
    • The importance of working with plants even if you can't afford a bunch of essential oils
    • A (not so) brief distraction by Amy's pitbull, Millie.
    • Connecting with plants from other epochs
    • Amy's efforts to bring some economic justice to her work
    • And more!

    Plus...

    • There are openings for Natasha's small-group psychic mentorship. Apply or learn more here!
    • Listen to Natasha's current podcast, Crystal Ballers, with co-host Britten LaRue.
    • Get Natasha's book Healing Your Inner Child in paperback or audiobook today.
    • Don't forget to rate/review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and tell your friends about us
    • Send questions, show topic suggestions, or to gettingtoknowwoo@gmail.com

    Getting to Know Woo is a podcast dedicated to dispelling the rhetoric that so-called "woo-woo" practices such as energy work, energy healing, inner child healing, chakra clearing, and more are impractical and ineffective, and instead are pragmatic, transformative, and powerful. Episodes are released as available during breaks from Natasha's main podcast, Crystal Ballers (https://www.crystalballerspod.com)

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    1 h et 6 min
  • Episode 55 - Getting to Know Auras, Activism & Dragons
    Apr 21 2025

    Host Natasha Levinger and her co-host/husband/producer, Brett talk about the messages coming from their guides about connecting to community and to the land you live on.

    In this episode:

    • Getting involved in supporting causes you care about
    • Find a way to use your specific skills to support a cause
    • Brett's use of aura work to support his activism
    • Setting up two versions of your aura
    • Aura work is accessible but powerful
    • Dragons have become a regular part of Natasha's life
    • Yes, dragons.
    • The grounding energy of dragons
    • "Crazy times call for grounded dragons"
    • And more!

    Plus...

    • Sign up for Grounding in the Chaos, an upcoming workshop from Crystal Ballers.
    • There are openings for Natasha's small-group psychic mentorship. Apply or learn more here!
    • Listen to Natasha's current podcast, Crystal Ballers, with co-host Britten LaRue.
    • Get Natasha's book Healing Your Inner Child in paperback or audiobook today.
    • Don't forget to rate/review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and tell your friends about us
    • Send questions, show topic suggestions, or to gettingtoknowwoo@gmail.com

    Mentioned in this episode:

    • GTKW Episode 43 - Getting to Know Auras & More with Eliza Swann

    Getting to Know Woo is a podcast dedicated to dispelling the rhetoric that so-called "woo-woo" practices such as energy work, energy healing, inner child healing, chakra clearing, and more are impractical and ineffective, and instead are pragmatic, transformative, and powerful. Episodes are released as available during breaks from Natasha's main podcast, Crystal Ballers (https://www.crystalballerspod.com)

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    26 min
  • Episode 54 - Getting to Know My New Podcast (Crystal Ballers)
    Mar 7 2025
    We're back, woozers! Well, kind of. We're back to briefly explain our disappearance, tell you when you can expect to see us back here, and to share Natasha's new podcast, Crystal Ballers! Here's the show description for Crystal Ballers episode 8. Welcome to Crystal Ballers, a podcast celebrating the audacity to create our future now, with your hosts Britten LaRue and Natasha Levinger. This week, Natasha & Britten are excited to welcome special guest, Xenia Viray. Xenia Marie Ross Viray (she/they) is an imagination healer, frequency artist, and creativity catalyst. She is the eldest of three sisters, and her name means kindness to strangers. Born as a brick-and-mortar fashion business, Myths of Creation is a container for experiments, art, writing, and gatherings at the intersection of creativity, spirituality, and meaning-making. Xenia guides spirited innovators who want to bring their natural genius into form. In this episode: Attuning yourself to find the poem within realityAllowing familiar physical tasks to quiet your mind enough to connect to that poemXenia's eternal inner child is making peace with being a grown being in a human bodyA body-based approach to timeline creationThe relationship between The Conscious Creator and The Allowing Mystic in each of usXenia's relationship to writingBeing at the first Webbie AwardsDesigning her own writing degree at NYUPowerful affirmations for these (and other) chaotic timesYou can tune your antenna to what you want and wait for the frequency to come inIf you cannot believe something, it's hard to find it in realityThere are many realities present, and you do not have to escape reality to experience them nowYour desires are your map to new realitiesHow obsession and avoidance can be used to tune into new realitiesHow shame can keep you from doing the work to tune into new timelinesWhy it can feel like abandoning people when you thriveWhere magic and quantum physics meetTuning yourself to a frequency of suffering is not the most efficient way to create intimacy with someone elseWorrying about the optics of self-care rather than the reality of itLearning to see when your own perception is clouded or uncloudedThe practicality of being an optimistic dreamerPondering the difference between escaping and dreamingQuestioning our own delineations of the "real" world and the "dream" worldDaydreaming as a crucial self-care toolLabeling things as "daydreaming" unnecessarily centers this reality as the "main" realityWhere we place our consciousness dictates our realityLearn about The Observer Effect on the Double Slit ExperimentOur attention is the alchemical mechanism for putting our consciousness onto a timelineWe are creating our reality every...single...secondInner child work can help put you and your inner child parts on the same timelineThe relationship of The Algorithm to the Observer EffectObstacles to using the Observer Effect to change reality on a societal levelA mystical model for reality can allow you to access facets of yourself for different momentsThe trap of relationships oriented toward struggle (even shared struggle)How a need or validation can get you stuck in single perspectivesUsing self-compassion to help scared parts of yourself move into safetyWe need trust to evolve as a societySome seeds need certain stressors to ever start growingAccepting the moment we're in as an invitation to crack open new ways of being, thinking, feelingCommunity is so important for resilienceThe Allegory of The Butterfly & The Imaginal DiscsWhat repulses you can be a signal for self-examinationIf you're building a business on magic: keep doing what your'e doingAnd more Plus... Individual readings are available. Learn more or book one hereGet Natasha's book Healing Your Inner Child in paperback or audiobook today.Don't forget to rate/review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and tell your friends about usSend questions, show topic suggestions, or to gettingtoknowwoo@gmail.com Getting to Know Woo is a podcast dedicated to dispelling the rhetoric that so-called "woo-woo" practices such as energy work, energy healing, inner child healing, chakra clearing, and more are impractical and ineffective, and instead are pragmatic, transformative, and powerful.
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    1 h
  • Episode 53 - Getting to Know Connection
    Nov 20 2024

    Host Natasha Levinger and her co-host/husband/producer, Brett talk about the messages coming from their guides about connecting to community and to the land you live on.

    In this episode:

    • Check your auras, kids!
    • A closed aura does not mean a shut down aura
    • Is Brett shutting down or getting his shit together?
    • The importance of community and not waiting for a savior
    • Some tools for coping with fear and anxiety
    • Choosing to view yourself as completely alone or connected to everything
    • Find the things that nourish and lift you up
    • Connecting to people locally
    • Connecting to the land you live on and its spirits
    • Adding some regular energetic hygiene to your routine
    • Continuing our new segment, Blisses & Misses!
    • Difference between an oracle deck and a tarot deck
    • Trusting and knowing your own magic
    • And more!

    Plus...

    • Spots are open for Awakening, Natasha's one-on-one mentor program.
    • Individual readings are available. Learn more or book one here
    • Get Natasha's book Healing Your Inner Child in paperback or audiobook today.
    • Don't forget to rate/review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and tell your friends about us
    • Send questions, show topic suggestions, or to gettingtoknowwoo@gmail.com

    Mentioned in this episode:

    • Erin in the Morning (www.erininthemorning.com)
    • Stained Glass Woman from Doc Impossible (stainedglasswoman.substack.com)
    • Big Fan by Alexandra Romanoff (831stories.com/products/big-fan)

    Getting to Know Woo is a bi-weekly podcast dedicated to dispelling the rhetoric that so-called "woo-woo" practices such as energy work, energy healing, inner child healing, chakra clearing, and more are impractical and ineffective, and instead are pragmatic, transformative, and powerful.

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    42 min