In this episode, host Charles Featherstone sits down with palliative care nurse and holistic healer Dale Heim, who has recently completed three shamanic journeys for the first time in three decades — a return to a practice she had suppressed at her husband's request since their marriage. The experience, undertaken as part of a doctor's research trial, gave Dale back what she describes as her voice, and has reignited her conviction that psychedelic-assisted healing has a vital and underused role in end-of-life care.
Dale draws on her extensive experience treating terminally ill patients — primarily in South Africa — to make a case for cannabis (THC) as a gentle but powerful tool for helping dying patients sleep, manage pain, reduce morphine dependency, and crucially, process unresolved emotional and spiritual material. She contrasts it favourably with more demanding psychedelics like ayahuasca and psilocybin, whose side effects can be distressing for already fragile patients, though she acknowledges the growing clinical interest in microdosed psilocybin for therapeutic purposes.
A central theme of the conversation is what Dale calls "the cesspit" — the accumulated unprocessed experiences and regrets that accumulate over a lifetime, and which tend to surface urgently when a person is given what she calls "the green light" to die. She argues that standard palliative sedation, particularly continuous morphine via syringe drivers, effectively shuts down the very mental and spiritual processing that dying people most need to do. Cannabis, by contrast, opens a space for dreaming, reflection, and what she calls soul retrieval.
The discussion broadens into territory including: the judgmental attitudes of clinical staff towards patients with addiction histories; the iatrogenic origins of many drug dependencies (including benzodiazepines and fentanyl); the potential for shamanic practice to complement or even surpass conventional psychology in treating trauma; and the cultural and religious barriers that prevent many patients from engaging with psychedelic approaches. Dale speaks personally about her friend Katie, whose benzodiazepine addiction she believes the medical system failed to address adequately.
The episode closes with a reflective exchange about reincarnation, vibration, karma, and the spiritual traditions — Hindu and spiritualist — that have quietly shaped Dale's worldview throughout a career spent largely in silence on these subjects. Her recent shamanic journeys, she suggests, have finally allowed her to reclaim who she has always been.