Audiences know Murray Hill as the hilarious pencil-mustachioed guy who looks like a Catskills comedian. Much of that identity was deliberately formed after an abusive childhood where he was raised as a girl and sure didn’t feel like one. He grew up, broke hard with the past, named himself for the Manhattan neighborhood he landed in, and became a cabaret star. Which is great! But that trauma also meant alcoholism, a mental breakdown, and ultimately effective treatment.

Murray Hill’s new memoir is Showbiz!: My Life as a Middle-Aged Man.

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Andy Frasco has been hard at work since the age of 13. As an adolescent that meant booking shows, helping out at record labels, running a flag football business. When he was 19, he took his carefully saved Bar Mitzvah money, bought a van, skipped college, and went on tour with his band. Now 38, he’s basically been on that tour ever since, using big energy and charisma to provide the funk and fun with Andy Frasco & The U.N. for big audiences all over. But the Andy we meet in this interview is at a crossroads. His best friend recently passed, he has a new EP of emotionally vulnerable songs written to his younger self, and he’s taking six months off to try to get a grip on his depression, his grief, and his identity off the concert stage. It’s a wonderful conversation for anyone who has wondered whether that’s really you at work or just a character you’re playing.

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Midlife doesn’t need to be a point of crisis, says author Gabrielle Moss. You don’t need to make dangerous choices, blow things up, take a spiritual trek through Nepal, or buy a red convertible. Her new book, Mid-Life Plot Twist, co-written with Lindsay Goldwert, explores how to set boundaries, re-evaluate relationships with work and money and love, and get on a better track. Gaby arrived at this wisdom through personal experience and she tells us of a childhood spent in that one scary house on the block, parents who got in screaming fights with waiters, and generally living in both chaos and depression. Healing from an alcohol dependency and an ADHD diagnosis helped Gaby understand both her past and her habits and with the help of therapy she got things turned around. Gaby has mended things with her father, who has undergone his own journey of self-improvement, but she has cut off contact with her mother, whose toxicity still boils.

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