Two absolute legends of the horse world: Dan James and Jill Barron.

Dan James has spent a lifetime learning from horses—from growing up on a cattle farm in Queensland to becoming a two-time World Champion Colt Starter, international performer, liberty horseman, and one of the most recognizable names in modern horsemanship.

Jill Barron brings a completely different—but equally badass—perspective. A lifelong horsewoman with ranch roots, international Working Equitation experience, and a reputation for blending classical techniques with natural horsemanship, Jill has made teaching riders and developing better horse-human partnerships her life's work.

Just good horses, good stories, hard-earned lessons, and a whole lot of Cowboy Shit.

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In this episode, we sit down with legendary stockman and clinician Curt Pate for a wide-ranging conversation about stockmanship, horsemanship, cattle handling, and what it really means to understand the animal you’re working with.

Joining us as guest co-host is Keith Stewart, bringing his own perspective and experience to the conversation as we dig into the principles, lessons, and experiences that have shaped Curt’s approach to working with livestock and horses.

Curt has spent decades learning from stockmen, horsemen, ranchers, cattlemen, and livestock producers, developing an approach centered around feel, timing, balance, pressure, release, and—most importantly—understanding what the animal is telling you. His work has taken him across North America conducting stockmanship and horsemanship clinics and helping producers improve the way they work with their livestock.

This conversation goes beyond simply moving cattle or getting a job done. We talk about reading animals, building trust, managing pressure, learning from the stockmen who came before us, and why good stockmanship is as much about the person as it is the animal.

If you work cattle, start colts, ride horses, ranch, or simply want to better understand the relationship between people and livestock, this is an episode you won’t want to miss.

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Coming at you from The Heart of The Horse, we are catching up with Keith Stewart! A horseman, bronc rider, cutting horse trainer, and the founder of Cowboy Campus.

From growing up horseback in Canada’s national parks and riding broncs at the Calgary Stampede, to working with legendary cutting horse trainer Larry Reeder and having his entire approach to horsemanship changed by Buck Brannaman, Keith has spent a lifetime learning what it really means to understand a horse.

We talk rodeo, cutting horses, colt starting, Heart of the Horse, and why the best horsemen never stop learning.

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