What does it really mean to find your place in a family business? In this episode, Meghan Lynch sits down with Torri Hawley, Chief Learning Officer at Tamarind Learning and a member of a seventh-generation family enterprise, to unpack a challenge many rising gen leaders face: being included without being clear on their role. Drawing from her own experience, Torri shares why simply teaching financials doesn’t solve the problem. You can understand the numbers and still feel lost, because the real question isn’t “Do I get this?” it’s “Where do I fit, and what’s expected of me?” The conversation explores how identity, context, and role clarity shape confidence over time, and why that shift matters for anyone stepping into ownership, whether formally or informally.

Key Topics Discussed

• Why understanding the numbers doesn’t automatically build confidence or readiness
• How unclear roles create tension and leave rising gen members unsure where they fit
• Why building an identity outside the family business strengthens leadership inside it
• How the right language and context help turn passive involvement into real participation

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Every generation inherits a different company. By the time a family business reaches the third generation, the organization is larger, the family system is more layered, and the decisions carry more weight in every direction. Third-generation leaders know that running on instinct is no longer enough to both protect the legacy and continue to drive growth.

Jaclyn Leibl-Cote faced this when she stepped into leadership at Collette. She had to earn the right to lead it, working outside the business before returning, building credibility within an organization that already had its own culture and momentum, and stepping into high-stakes decisions.

The clearest example of this occurred during the pandemic, when Collette refunded over $185 million in tour revenue rather than hold onto it amid the uncertainty. It was the kind of decision that is only "simple" when you're clear on what the company's promise is to its customers, employees, and family ownership.

This conversation is for anyone managing the gap between the business they inherited and the leader they need to become.

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What does it take to build a career that creates lasting impact? In this episode, Meghan Lynch sits down with Dr. Robert Langer, MIT Institute Professor and co-founder of Moderna, to explore how he’s spent decades choosing problems worth solving.

Rather than chasing incremental gains, Dr. Langer focuses on work where he sees the potential for real, far-reaching impact, and then builds teams and mentors others to extend that impact beyond what any one person could achieve alone.

It’s a conversation that connects scientific innovation to a question many leaders are asking: what’s actually worth your time, and who do you need to develop to make that work matter at scale?

Key Topics Discussed

• Evaluate opportunities based on whether they can create meaningful, far-reaching impact
• Focus on problems with broad application across industries or markets
• Align your work with skills you can meaningfully apply and expand
• Multiply impact through mentorship and developing future leaders
• Move ideas beyond theory by ensuring real-world application and commercialization

Building Unbreakable Brands is hosted by Meghan Lynch
Produced by Six-Point Strategy